6'8 recruits

[tropicalshox]

I think Heiar is a strong hire without a package deal, but, hey I want players. I don't have a problem stealing Dewhitt. Top 20-25 preseason for sure.

[tropicalshox]

Why did DeWitt fail to qualify at Missouri in 2009?

Academics but I don't know the details if it was bad grades, low test scores, or the combination.

[The Mad Hatter]

For anyone who thinks we still may bring in a JUCO big, here's Will Ohuaregbe, a 6'8", 240 pound big from Chipola who was being recruited to Southern Miss by Heiar.

You have to wonder what will happen with Keith DeWhitt who has already signed with S. Miss. I actually think there's better chance we end up with DeWhitt.

I'll ask it hear and not under Heiar's thread: How does everyone feel about a possibility of signing a de-commit from USM? Of course, Ohuaregbe is a different case, not having verballed or signed, but this would not be the situation with DeWitt.

I'd be uneasy about it for the same reason I feel a HC shouldn't do it. And that has nothing to do with the fact that he's a JC big that I don't see a need for.

All I can think is how I would feel if Chad Dollar took Carl Hall with him.

[Aargh]

I've pretty much concluded that college basketball is more like a business than an amateur sport. With that in mind, if a coach is hired away from another school and that coach ends up with some recruits attached, well, that's part of doing business.

After watching the situations with Bowles and McDermott, giving jobs to family members, etc. college basketball is no longer a "gentleman's" game when it comes to getting players.

When there are million dollar paychecks dependent on getting the right players, it's pretty much going to be open season for about anything. I'd like to think that it's not courteous to sign recruits previously committed to other schools by hiring their coach, but that ship has sailed and left the harbor.

[ShockTalk]

For anyone who thinks we still may bring in a JUCO big, here's Will Ohuaregbe, a 6'8", 240 pound big from Chipola who was being recruited to Southern Miss by Heiar.

You have to wonder what will happen with Keith DeWhitt who has already signed with S. Miss. I actually think there's better chance we end up with DeWhitt.

I'll ask it hear and not under Heiar's thread: How does everyone feel about a possibility of signing a de-commit from USM? Of course, Ohuaregbe is a different case, not having verballed or signed, but this would not be the situation with DeWitt.

I'd be uneasy about it for the same reason I feel a HC shouldn't do it. And that has nothing to do with the fact that he's a JC big that I don't see a need for.

All I can think is how I would feel if Chad Dollar took Carl Hall with him.

:yes: :good:

[moshock]

Since DeWhitt has already signed, should he back out and decide to attend WSU, would he be eligible this coming season or would he have to sit out a year ?

:wsu_posters:

[tropicalshox]

Since DeWhitt has already signed, should he back out and decide to attend WSU, would he be eligible this coming season or would he have to sit out a year ?

:wsu_posters:

Eligible.

[SubGod22]

I've pretty much concluded that college basketball is more like a business than an amateur sport. With that in mind, if a coach is hired away from another school and that coach ends up with some recruits attached, well, that's part of doing business.

After watching the situations with Bowles and McDermott, giving jobs to family members, etc. college basketball is no longer a "gentleman's" game when it comes to getting players.

When there are million dollar paychecks dependent on getting the right players, it's pretty much going to be open season for about anything. I'd like to think that it's not courteous to sign recruits previously committed to other schools by hiring their coach, but that ship has sailed and left the harbor.

Except you RARELY see a coach take a kid he signed at one school with him to another. Most of the coaching profession seems to look down upon that and Marshall himself declined to do it when he came here from Winthrop even though he recruited a player or two that asked and probably could have helped. Shady things are done from time to time at some institutions, but taking previously signed players with you isn't really one of them.

Heiar also recruited Carl Hall for Southern Miss.

[SpanglerFan316]

Actually, if you're talking about bigs signed by USM, I'd take a look at Christian Robbins (7'0", 230 lbs) who should redshirt in 2011-12. Imagine if WSU established a tradition of 7'0"+ centers; GS, EO & CR all playing against one another in practice. :lol:

[ShockTalk]

I've pretty much concluded that college basketball is more like a business than an amateur sport. With that in mind, if a coach is hired away from another school and that coach ends up with some recruits attached, well, that's part of doing business.

After watching the situations with Bowles and McDermott, giving jobs to family members, etc. college basketball is no longer a "gentleman's" game when it comes to getting players.

When there are million dollar paychecks dependent on getting the right players, it's pretty much going to be open season for about anything. I'd like to think that it's not courteous to sign recruits previously committed to other schools by hiring their coach, but that ship has sailed and left the harbor.

You may have very well made the same comment 4-5 years ago. If so, my post is not directed to you, Aargh. However, my self included, most here did not like the way the Bowles situation went down, eventhough, Bowles was probably not coming to WSU even if MT had stayed.

If the college basketball landscape has changed that much in just the last 5 years, I'd prefer WSU to be a late holdout among institutions on those situations and not give it the okee doke the first time it's in our favor.

[lostshocker]

I've pretty much concluded that college basketball is more like a business than an amateur sport. With that in mind, if a coach is hired away from another school and that coach ends up with some recruits attached, well, that's part of doing business.

After watching the situations with Bowles and McDermott, giving jobs to family members, etc. college basketball is no longer a "gentleman's" game when it comes to getting players.

When there are million dollar paychecks dependent on getting the right players, it's pretty much going to be open season for about anything. I'd like to think that it's not courteous to sign recruits previously committed to other schools by hiring their coach, but that ship has sailed and left the harbor.

so should the departing coach reimburse the institution he is leaving for the cost of recruiting a kid and then "stealing" him away to his new job?

[SoulStar]

Our current DOBO brought EO along for the ride, no?

http://www.shockernet.net/sn/viewtopic.php?p=123839

[SubGod22]

Our current DOBO brought EO along for the ride, no?

http://www.shockernet.net/sn/viewtopic.php?p=123839

I believe Liberty had released him knowing it would be near impossible for him to show up on campus. At least in the short term.

[Aargh]

I'm not saying I condone coaches taking recruits with them. I'm just saying that it's going to happen and pretty much nothing surprises me any more.

If Heiar brought USM's best recruit with him to WSU, I would not be comfortable with that. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

And, yes I think if that happens, the "receiving" school should reimburse the "losing" school for their recruiting costs.

There are probably less ethical things that happen in recruiting.

[ShockTalk]

I'm not saying I condone coaches taking recruits with them. I'm just saying that it's going to happen and pretty much nothing surprises me any more.

If Heiar brought USM's best recruit with him to WSU, I would not be comfortable with that. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

And, yes I think if that happens, the "receiving" school should reimburse the "losing" school for their recruiting costs.

There are probably less ethical things that happen in recruiting.

Yes, to every statement, Aargh.