I hate the NCAA

[Rosewood]

http://espn.go.com/blog/sportscenter/post/_/id/94710/ncaa-newton-cleared-father-broke-rules

Summary: Auburn declares Cam Newton ineligable on Tuesday, tells no one. Wednesday the NCAA declares him eligable and everyone goes "Huh?" because again, no one knew that for 24 hours he was ineligable.

The NCAA decided that Cam Newton's father was trying to do pay for play but Cam shouldn't be punished because he didn't know anything about it.

There are a lot of things wrong with this story but that last bit is what has really gotten me angry.

The NCAA is saying that because Cam had no control over the violation and no knowledge of the violation, he won't be punished. Tell that to this guy:



Last year Clev had no knowledge of his paperwork violation. He had no control over the situation. However Clev had to sit out 3 games (and the coaching staff held him from the Newman game in hopes that they could get that one to count), so basically 1/12th of the 36 total

But of course this is WSU and Clev wasn't in the running for the player of the year nor was WSU going to take on Duke for the national title last year. So bam, 3 game suspension.

I know Clev's story isn't unique. In fact, I know the NCAA has a track record like this so I shouldn't be surprised. I guess I am not surprised.

But my hate for the NCAA grows even more. (College football was already dead to me so no change there).

[AndShock]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[wu_shizzle]

This is about protecting the BCS sacred cow.

No Auburn means TCU gets a crack at the National Championship and the NCAA seems to be the only one against a playoff system.

Go Gamecocks!

[ShockTalk]

Excellent post Rosewood. I was shaking my head over the 24 hour reversal, but you put a very clear perspective on it.

[DUShock]

The NCAA is fascist organization pure and simple.

[Ixiah]

I'm not quite sure there is a fair comparison with Clevin. The argument could be made that the NCAA was punishing the "team" rather then the Clevin for the paperwork issue. In the case of Cam Newton a 3rd party was involved that nobody had any control over.

[RoyalShock]

I'm not quite sure there is a fair comparison with Clevin. The argument could be made that the NCAA was punishing the "team" rather then the Clevin for the paperwork issue. In the case of Cam Newton a 3rd party was involved that nobody had any control over.

Which now sets a precedent that "third parties" can now feel a sense of immunity as they attempt to break NCAA rules.

Nice forward thinking, NCAA.

Of course, the NCAA doesn't really care about precedent. They'll interpret their rules differently as they see fit.

[tw805]

Certain factions within the NCAA are becoming transparently collusive.

Definition of Collusion: Collusion is an agreement between parties to refrain in participating in an activity that they normally would in order to reduce competition and gain higher profits.

alt:> It is an agreement among firms to divide the market, set prices, or limit production.


From the DOJ:

Market Division

Market division or allocation schemes are agreements in which competitors divide markets among themselves. In such schemes, competing firms allocate specific customers or types of customers, products, or territories among themselves. For example, one competitor will be allowed to sell to, or bid on contracts let by, certain customers or types of customers. In return, he or she will not sell to, or bid on contracts let by, customers allocated to the other competitors. In other schemes, competitors agree to sell only to customers in certain geographic areas and refuse to sell to, or quote intentionally high prices to, customers in geographic areas allocated to conspirator companies.



In other words, if you specific conferences join our big BCS scheme, we will ensure that you have a share of the market that you are exclusive too, even when you are the totally garbage Big East and deliver an inferior product. In exchange, you have to promise to deliver your conference winner to our sham of a "system," and you will in-turn divide the proceeds from the conference winner's game amongst yourself so that no one within the conference is a true loser.

We will maintain our competitive advantage by using rules that we created and that we alone enforce to give your conferences a leg up in discipline matters, etc.

Maybe my tin-foil hat is on a little too tightly, but I'm having trouble seeing it as anything but the above.

[rjl]

I'm not quite sure there is a fair comparison with Clevin. The argument could be made that the NCAA was punishing the "team" rather then the Clevin for the paperwork issue. In the case of Cam Newton a 3rd party was involved that nobody had any control over.

That's the distinguishing factor in my eyes.

[H8KU]

Typical bureaucratic BS. It's not a matter of right and wrong, its a matter of accountability. We don't have the strong media pull to give the NCAA any incentive to treat Hannah's situation fairly. Get used to it. It's part of being a Kansan.

[Kung Wu]

I'm not quite sure there is a fair comparison with Clevin. The argument could be made that the NCAA was punishing the "team" rather then the Clevin for the paperwork issue. In the case of Cam Newton a 3rd party was involved that nobody had any control over.

Excellent, now we should outsource:

1) all paperwork to a 3rd party law firm,
2) all recruiting to a 3rd party talent search firm,
3) all ticket sales to a 3rd party ticketing agency (indirect slam at KU),

We then can't be held liable for any screw-ups!

[Shox21]

I'm not quite sure there is a fair comparison with Clevin. The argument could be made that the NCAA was punishing the "team" rather then the Clevin for the paperwork issue. In the case of Cam Newton a 3rd party was involved that nobody had any control over.

Excellent, now we should outsource:

1) all paperwork to a 3rd party law firm,
2) all recruiting to a 3rd party talent search firm,
3) all ticket sales to a 3rd party ticketing agency (indirect slam at KU),

We then can't be held liable for any screw-ups!

I think he is talking about third parties NOT RELATED IN ANY WAY to the university. Anything outsourced would still be university-related.

[ShockTalk]

I'm not quite sure there is a fair comparison with Clevin. The argument could be made that the NCAA was punishing the "team" rather then the Clevin for the paperwork issue. In the case of Cam Newton a 3rd party was involved that nobody had any control over.

That's the distinguishing factor in my eyes.

It was an administrative error. Nobody was trying to cheat. Fine WSU's Athletic Department. They were the ones responsible, not Clev or the team.

As for Newton, I find it hard to believe he didn't know anything.

[Kung Wu]

I'm not quite sure there is a fair comparison with Clevin. The argument could be made that the NCAA was punishing the "team" rather then the Clevin for the paperwork issue. In the case of Cam Newton a 3rd party was involved that nobody had any control over.

Excellent, now we should outsource:

1) all paperwork to a 3rd party law firm,
2) all recruiting to a 3rd party talent search firm,
3) all ticket sales to a 3rd party ticketing agency (indirect slam at KU),

We then can't be held liable for any screw-ups!

I think he is talking about third parties NOT RELATED IN ANY WAY to the university. Anything outsourced would still be university-related.

Right, I was being a bit silly.

But it appears to me that _Auburn University_ declared him ineligible, not the NCAA:

Auburn had ruled Cam Newton ineligible Tuesday after the NCAA concluded a violation of its amateurism rules occurred.

If that's true it would obviously be because they didn't like being blackmailed by his father. So they declare him ineligible and then go to the NCAA to clear up the situation so they could have their quarterback back in service, without the idiots trying to siphon money out of them.

Can anybody confirm that the NCAA declared him ineligible and not Auburn University?

[HockeyShock]

"The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky, they'll probably give Cleveland State two more years' probation." - Jerry Tarkanian

Gets quoted a lot here, but always appropriate.

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