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  • Originally posted by Nightwatchman
    Anyways, I'll be making it to a fair amount of games at the Chuck this season. Call me a troll or whatever you want, but I've been a WSU fan for a long time and I will be attending Grad school there next year.

    Might I suggest if you are planning to attend games this season (or any season for the next 30-50 years hopefully) that you not wear your favorite beaker outfit, and if you can't help yourself, might I further suggest you keep a safe distance from section 125.


    Carry on.

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    • Originally posted by ShockerFever
      Originally posted by Nightwatchman
      Dude, you're running a clinic on poor argument and faulty logic. Go yell at the wall or something. Your blood pressure must be soaring right now.
      But doooooood, how is my argument poor and my logic faulty? Again, you're doing the very same thing you called me out on. I've fully explained the situation. You, on the other hand, keep repeating the same hypocritical thing over and over. You have no argument.

      My blood pressure is well within normal range. Yours is likely through the roof. That's why you keep responding several hours after you've said that you were "done".

      This is all backfiring upon you and eventually you will be reduced to a pile of dust.

      I don't think you realize how hypocritical, dopey, and idiotic you have now caused yourself to look like. And just think, if you would've stopped a couple hours ago like you said, it would have been reduced to just dopey and idiotic.
      KSUs Elite Eight was dismissed as not a worthy accomplishment, so I pointed out you can say the same thing about WSUs Sweet 16. You got owned by Snapshot and refuse to respond to his post. How does that clownsuit fit? Keep posting though, you're getting so worked up and it's hilarious. This thread has been a 4 day long backfire for you. lmao.

      *You'll keep bumping this thread so you can feel like you "won", it's too late though, you've already exposed yourself. You need to do something about that inferiority complex, son.

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      • Does this repetitive slippery slope remind anyone else of something similar that happened a few months ago?



        That thread was created by a self-proclaimed "WSU fan". And in his gracefulness, the following posts were made by this specimen in his very own created thread:

        This post was edited several times because the original post had so many grammatical errors and ramblings that it could not be understood:
        LOL. You think because UNI beat KU it somehow validates WSU. The unathletic chuck the 3 offense works one out of 10 times. UNI is going to get raped whoever they play next. You pretend not to be obsessed with KU but there is a 20 page thread about them.
        Remember, this is a self-proclaimed WSU fan posting this. I guess the cap lock button was on for an extra kick:
        WHAT WAS THE LAST MVC TEAM TO WIN A TITLE, LET ALONE GO TO A FINAL FOUR? YOU SMUG CLOWNS. MVC WILL ALWAYS BE A 2ND ROUND JOKE
        Yes, this poster is repeating itself and yes again it liked the cap lock button:
        WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE MISSOURI VALLEY CLOWN CONFERENCE WENT TO A FINAL FOUR
        As we get further into the thread, the classy nature of the poster is made evident:
        atleast im not a fat piece of #### whos been going to wsu for 8 years.
        So eloquent:
        no, wudrwu is actually a fat tool in real life who has been a 8 year undergrad at wsu.
        After this post was made, the poster disappeared from Shockernet for 3 straight weeks:
        your addicted to porn
        I just wanted to remind everybody who this self-proclaimed WSU fan is. He wants everyone to think he's cool, calm, collected, and always in control. He probably doesn't want anyone bringing this back up because afterall, he went in hiatus for 3 weeks until this masterpiece disappeared off the first 3 pages of the board.

        I encourage you to look through the thread and laugh at some of the classic ownage lines that were stated all throughout by fellow Shocker fans. Some of them are so good, they may bring you to tears.

        Just remember, the poster has stated and continues to state that he is not a troll, has been a fan of WSU for a long time, and is commenting on others' blood pressure readings.

        A word of caution: This may send the poster in question into hiding for another 3 weeks.

        Have fun.
        Deuces Valley.
        ... No really, deuces.
        ________________
        "Enjoy the ride."

        - a smart man

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        • Originally posted by Nightwatchman
          Originally posted by ShockerFever
          Originally posted by Nightwatchman
          Dude, you're running a clinic on poor argument and faulty logic. Go yell at the wall or something. Your blood pressure must be soaring right now.
          But doooooood, how is my argument poor and my logic faulty? Again, you're doing the very same thing you called me out on. I've fully explained the situation. You, on the other hand, keep repeating the same hypocritical thing over and over. You have no argument.

          My blood pressure is well within normal range. Yours is likely through the roof. That's why you keep responding several hours after you've said that you were "done".

          This is all backfiring upon you and eventually you will be reduced to a pile of dust.

          I don't think you realize how hypocritical, dopey, and idiotic you have now caused yourself to look like. And just think, if you would've stopped a couple hours ago like you said, it would have been reduced to just dopey and idiotic.
          KSUs Elite Eight was dismissed as not a worthy accomplishment, so I pointed out you can say the same thing about WSUs Sweet 16. You got owned by Snapshot and refuse to respond to his post. How does that clownsuit fit? Keep posting though, you're getting so worked up and it's hilarious. This thread has been a 4 day long backfire for you. lmao.

          *You'll keep bumping this thread so you can feel like you "won", it's too late though, you've already exposed yourself. You need to do something about that inferiority complex, son.
          I told you I will be getting Snap's post later. Do you have issues with reading and comprehension? No need to answer.

          The ironic thing is that I'm the WSU fan on a WSU board. You're the KU fan on a WSU board and calling me the one with the "inferiority complex". Is that cutesy or what?

          Doc Holliday, it is also a bit funny talking about "winning" when it is you that is on every message board in the Midwest, at all hours of the day (and night), protecting the now floundering image of Kansas University athletics. I think it is best to hush-hush now on that subject as the hypocrisy of this situation has gone through the roof.

          I'm the one with the "inferiority complex" and worried about "winning" and yet this is what came out of your carefully manicured fingertips..

          Originally posted by Nightwatchman
          *This thread is boring. I'm done.
          Deuces Valley.
          ... No really, deuces.
          ________________
          "Enjoy the ride."

          - a smart man

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          • Originally posted by Nightwatchman
            *This thread is boring. I'm done.
            Deuces Valley.
            ... No really, deuces.
            ________________
            "Enjoy the ride."

            - a smart man

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            • Originally posted by ShockerFever
              Does this repetitive slippery slope remind anyone else of something similar that happened a few months ago?



              That thread was created by a self-proclaimed "WSU fan". And in his gracefulness, the following posts were made by this specimen in his very own created thread:

              This post was edited several times because the original post had so many grammatical errors and ramblings that it could not be understood:
              LOL. You think because UNI beat KU it somehow validates WSU. The unathletic chuck the 3 offense works one out of 10 times. UNI is going to get raped whoever they play next. You pretend not to be obsessed with KU but there is a 20 page thread about them.
              Remember, this is a self-proclaimed WSU fan posting this. I guess the cap lock button was on for an extra kick:
              WHAT WAS THE LAST MVC TEAM TO WIN A TITLE, LET ALONE GO TO A FINAL FOUR? YOU SMUG CLOWNS. MVC WILL ALWAYS BE A 2ND ROUND JOKE
              Yes, this poster is repeating itself and yes again it liked the cap lock button:
              WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE MISSOURI VALLEY CLOWN CONFERENCE WENT TO A FINAL FOUR
              As we get further into the thread, the classy nature of the poster is made evident:
              atleast im not a fat piece of #### whos been going to wsu for 8 years.
              So eloquent:
              no, wudrwu is actually a fat tool in real life who has been a 8 year undergrad at wsu.
              After this post was made, the poster disappeared from Shockernet for 3 straight weeks:
              your addicted to porn
              I just wanted to remind everybody who this self-proclaimed WSU fan is. He wants everyone to think he's cool, calm, collected, and always in control. He probably doesn't want anyone bringing this back up because afterall, he went in hiatus for 3 weeks until this masterpiece disappeared off the first 3 pages of the board.

              I encourage you to look through the thread and laugh at some of the classic ownage lines that were stated all throughout by fellow Shocker fans. Some of them are so good, they may bring you to tears.

              Just remember, the poster has stated and continues to state that he is not a troll, has been a fan of WSU for a long time, and is commenting on others' blood pressure readings.

              A word of caution: This may send the poster in question into hiding for another 3 weeks.

              Have fun.
              Yawn. You keep deflecting posts, namely Snapshot's. Continue your Ad Hominem though..

              Also, I have no idea if DrWu is a fat tool in real life. Seems like he's one of the more knowledgeable and sane posters on this site. You, not so much.

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              • Originally posted by Nightwatchman
                Originally posted by ShockerFever
                Does this repetitive slippery slope remind anyone else of something similar that happened a few months ago?



                That thread was created by a self-proclaimed "WSU fan". And in his gracefulness, the following posts were made by this specimen in his very own created thread:

                This post was edited several times because the original post had so many grammatical errors and ramblings that it could not be understood:
                LOL. You think because UNI beat KU it somehow validates WSU. The unathletic chuck the 3 offense works one out of 10 times. UNI is going to get raped whoever they play next. You pretend not to be obsessed with KU but there is a 20 page thread about them.
                Remember, this is a self-proclaimed WSU fan posting this. I guess the cap lock button was on for an extra kick:
                WHAT WAS THE LAST MVC TEAM TO WIN A TITLE, LET ALONE GO TO A FINAL FOUR? YOU SMUG CLOWNS. MVC WILL ALWAYS BE A 2ND ROUND JOKE
                Yes, this poster is repeating itself and yes again it liked the cap lock button:
                WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE MISSOURI VALLEY CLOWN CONFERENCE WENT TO A FINAL FOUR
                As we get further into the thread, the classy nature of the poster is made evident:
                atleast im not a fat piece of #### whos been going to wsu for 8 years.
                So eloquent:
                no, wudrwu is actually a fat tool in real life who has been a 8 year undergrad at wsu.
                After this post was made, the poster disappeared from Shockernet for 3 straight weeks:
                your addicted to porn
                I just wanted to remind everybody who this self-proclaimed WSU fan is. He wants everyone to think he's cool, calm, collected, and always in control. He probably doesn't want anyone bringing this back up because afterall, he went in hiatus for 3 weeks until this masterpiece disappeared off the first 3 pages of the board.

                I encourage you to look through the thread and laugh at some of the classic ownage lines that were stated all throughout by fellow Shocker fans. Some of them are so good, they may bring you to tears.

                Just remember, the poster has stated and continues to state that he is not a troll, has been a fan of WSU for a long time, and is commenting on others' blood pressure readings.

                A word of caution: This may send the poster in question into hiding for another 3 weeks.

                Have fun.
                Yawn. You keep deflecting posts, namely Snapshot's. Continue your Ad Hominem though..

                Also, I have no idea if DrWu is a fat tool in real life. Seems like he's one of the more knowledgeable and sane posters on this site. You, not so much.
                A yawner it is, but it was worth typing out. A bit ironic, eh?

                If you don't know what or who Doc is, then why did you call him those things? Because you are hypocritical and butthurt. That's why you have continued to respond several posts after you said.. and I quote.. "I'm done."

                Just remember, I'm trying to "win", not you. Please remember that when you go for the "win" in your last word again.. and again.. and again.. and again.
                Deuces Valley.
                ... No really, deuces.
                ________________
                "Enjoy the ride."

                - a smart man

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                • Originally posted by Nightwatchman
                  *This thread is boring. I'm done.
                  Deuces Valley.
                  ... No really, deuces.
                  ________________
                  "Enjoy the ride."

                  - a smart man

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                  • BeakerWatchMan is likely to get his butt kicked at a WSU game. The sad part is that Security is going to take the guy who nailed him instead of taking BeakerWatchMan.

                    There ought to be a special exemption that allows punching out fans of other schools who take seats away from real WSU fans.
                    The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                    We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                    • Nighty night girl:

                      You have now given me so much newfound "relative" respect for complete asshole arrogant buzzard followers. They stick to their own boards. I would take them over your pathetic little existence any day. Obviously, in your mind the entire power of the Jahawks glorious and storied history has failed to gain it any respect or care on this board and you cannot stand it. It has simply eaten you alive...

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                      • And now by request of nighttoolman, I will break down one of the Top 5 worst posts in Shockernet history:

                        Originally posted by Snapshot9
                        WSU is considered the 'new kid' on the block in the state of Kansas. We're an upstart, so to speak, a red headed stepchild in the world of basketball, and that is not going to change anytime soon. There is no sense in perpetuating that sterotype on a daily basis on here.
                        I'd like the list of names of educated individuals who considers WSU a "new kid, upstart, red headed stepchild in the world of basketball." I'd like to ask where in the hell did you get this absolutely absurd thought from? If by "new kid" and "upstart" you mean an institution that was founded 30 years after the University of Kansas in 1895, then I guess you are correct. If by getting to the Final Four and being ranked No.1 in the 60's means we are an upstart red-headed stepchild, then I guess you are correct. I guess at the end you try and save some face and acknowledge that your above statement was indeed a "sterotype", but then add it isn't going to change anytime soon. It is a bit complex on how you explained it. If you meant the dumbed down KU and KSU fans are never gonna get over this fallacy, then yes you are right. If you aren't speaking on behalf of them, then you are grossly misguided.

                        Originally posted by Snapshot9
                        All of you guys go on about playing KU or KSU in basketball, but the truth is that, most likely, we would get beat. Would that make you feel any better? They are not going to risk their rank and file position within the state by playing us, and we need to GET OVER IT.
                        Wow. Really? In regards to KU, there is no doubt they have total superiority over us. Since this is true, why would they fear losing to us if they are so divinely superior? As others on here have pointed out, why not group us in the same category as Alcorn State or Longwood and play? It wouldn't make since for a team that is supposedly likely to win to not play the team they are superior to. Isn't that the point of big time BCS college athletics nowadays? If 99 times out of 100, KU will beat WSU, then why not play? Will the loss sting more than a Nevada, Oral Roberts, or Richmond at home? Did those losses all cause KU to sink into the basketball graveyard? And that's assuming the vastly inferior WSU would go into Lawrence and win the game. What does KU have to lose that it didn't in games to Oral Roberts and Richmond? How would their rank and position in the state be risked if it's a sure-fire win? How would the risk be any different of a Summit League school from Tulsa or an A-10 school from Richmond? Maybe perhaps THEY SHOULD GET OVER IT.

                        It is rather ironic that you indeed would chalk KU or especially Kansas State has automatic wins for them. On neutral settings, the Valley has fared pretty well in recent times against KU. Bradley in 2006, a close SIU loss in 2007, and a UNI beatdown of the nation's No.1 team in 2010 may mean the top of the Valley is closer to KU's superior status than most want to admit. That's 3 times in 5 years the Valley has more than held their own. Yeah, one time might be a coincidence. But the three in the last five years is a trend. And this isn't even mentioning WSU's record against KU in the NCAA Tournament. I wouldn't call it a walk in the park for KU and perhaps that is why the fear factor is there for them and is an excuse kept tucked back into the back of their heads for why there has been no hookups in over 17 years.

                        I'm not even gonna entertain the idea with Kansas State. You can go back as recently as our last series with them in the late 90's and early 2000's to know we aren't below their pillar. They were below us for a fair amount in the mid-2000's. They have finally hit their peak as of now and so wouldn't this make the most sense to play us? When they appear to have the upper hand? Hell, we even busted the kneecaps off of them in a scrimmage last year. It was definitely not necessary to group Kansas State into this conversation. Not one iota. And for that you should be ashamed.

                        Originally posted by Snapshot9
                        Some of you HARP so much on here, you begin to sound like Rodney Dangerfield. The only way we are going to get that respect we feel like we deserve is TO WIN THE BALL GAMES ... period. Getting to the Sweet Sixteen in '06 got us a lot of respect and recognition, and helped our recruiting efforts, not to mention, we might not have gotten HCGM without it.
                        Generally speaking, the conference we have aligned ourselves with has been gaining RESPECT... especially in RESPECT to recent NCAA games against Kansas. KU is a couple points away from being 0-3 against the Valley in the elite events of all events - the NCAA Tournament - in the last 5 years. What more do you EFFING want? In regard to WSU, I think we have done our fair share of turning this program around from the dark days of the 1990's. I'm pretty sure most college basketball gurus out there would consider us to be a pretty decent program in the last few years. We have done our share of winning, even reaching the Sweet 16 in 06 and what did that give us the following year? Well, we had a chance to play KU in Lawrence in a one-and-done deal on national tv and guess who turned that down? YUP. If getting to the Sweet 16 is not enough respect, then nothing will satisfy you or those clowns. If there was a time to prove your theory right, that would have been it.. but guess what? It DIDN'T happen.

                        And one other thing, you can't gain respect if you don't play. The table has been laid out several times for some very generous offers to the schools to the north. And each and every time that respect is thrown out the window. How the hell do you expect to get respect if you're treated like pondscum from the onset?

                        Originally posted by Snapshot9
                        We have to EARN that respect... period. What have we done lately to earn it? Sure, we went 25-10 last year, and I wanted us in the Big Dance as much as anyone, but we ended up letting one player from Nevada beat us in the NIT in the FIRST GAME, a dismal failure in my eyes. Is that team ball, to let one player beat you?
                        This has already been summarized in the last paragraphs. What will it take oh wise one to EARN that respect? Going 30-0 and winning a National Championship? You lay it out for me. I really don't understand how Luke Babbit has anything to do with this? Not really a "dismal failure" in my eyes. It was an NIT game for a team that had aspirations of the NCAA's. A run through the NIT would have garnered us as much respect as me going over to your house and pissing on your front lawn.

                        Originally posted by Snapshot9
                        Let's do our talking on the court, and all things we deserve will happen accordingly.
                        We have done plenty of talking and nothing is coming. In reality, it's all about $$$$ and fear. It's as simple as that. The "lose-lose" scenarios the opposition constantly parades around is an old, tired, and faulty argument. It's simply about 3 in-state institutions playing the game of basketball. And for one of the schools, it's pretty much on their terms, however they want it. But yet, it still isn't enough. How could you not say it's fear? It really comes down to "why not"?

                        Snap, don't embarrass us with this comedy anymore. Please?

                        And nighttool, let's see a rebuttal of more than a sentence, like I was ridiculed for. Or maybe that's asking too much?
                        Deuces Valley.
                        ... No really, deuces.
                        ________________
                        "Enjoy the ride."

                        - a smart man

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                        • :good: :clap:

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                          • Originally posted by ShockerFever
                            And now by request of nighttoolman, I will break down one of the Top 5 worst posts in Shockernet history:

                            Originally posted by Snapshot9
                            WSU is considered the 'new kid' on the block in the state of Kansas. We're an upstart, so to speak, a red headed stepchild in the world of basketball, and that is not going to change anytime soon. There is no sense in perpetuating that sterotype on a daily basis on here.
                            I'd like the list of names of educated individuals who considers WSU a "new kid, upstart, red headed stepchild in the world of basketball." I'd like to ask where in the hell did you get this absolutely absurd thought from? If by "new kid" and "upstart" you mean an institution that was founded 30 years after the University of Kansas in 1895, then I guess you are correct. If by getting to the Final Four and being ranked No.1 in the 60's means we are an upstart red-headed stepchild, then I guess you are correct. I guess at the end you try and save some face and acknowledge that your above statement was indeed a "sterotype", but then add it isn't going to change anytime soon. It is a bit complex on how you explained it. If you meant the dumbed down KU and KSU fans are never gonna get over this fallacy, then yes you are right. If you aren't speaking on behalf of them, then you are grossly misguided.

                            Originally posted by Snapshot9
                            All of you guys go on about playing KU or KSU in basketball, but the truth is that, most likely, we would get beat. Would that make you feel any better? They are not going to risk their rank and file position within the state by playing us, and we need to GET OVER IT.
                            Wow. Really? In regards to KU, there is no doubt they have total superiority over us. Since this is true, why would they fear losing to us if they are so divinely superior? As others on here have pointed out, why not group us in the same category as Alcorn State or Longwood and play? It wouldn't make since for a team that is supposedly likely to win to not play the team they are superior to. Isn't that the point of big time BCS college athletics nowadays? If 99 times out of 100, KU will beat WSU, then why not play? Will the loss sting more than a Nevada, Oral Roberts, or Richmond at home? Did those losses all cause KU to sink into the basketball graveyard? And that's assuming the vastly inferior WSU would go into Lawrence and win the game. What does KU have to lose that it didn't in games to Oral Roberts and Richmond? How would their rank and position in the state be risked if it's a sure-fire win? How would the risk be any different of a Summit League school from Tulsa or an A-10 school from Richmond? Maybe perhaps THEY SHOULD GET OVER IT.

                            It is rather ironic that you indeed would chalk KU or especially Kansas State has automatic wins for them. On neutral settings, the Valley has fared pretty well in recent times against KU. Bradley in 2006, a close SIU loss in 2007, and a UNI beatdown of the nation's No.1 team in 2010 may mean the top of the Valley is closer to KU's superior status than most want to admit. That's 3 times in 5 years the Valley has more than held their own. Yeah, one time might be a coincidence. But the three in the last five years is a trend. And this isn't even mentioning WSU's record against KU in the NCAA Tournament. I wouldn't call it a walk in the park for KU and perhaps that is why the fear factor is there for them and is an excuse kept tucked back into the back of their heads for why there has been no hookups in over 17 years.

                            I'm not even gonna entertain the idea with Kansas State. You can go back as recently as our last series with them in the late 90's and early 2000's to know we aren't below their pillar. They were below us for a fair amount in the mid-2000's. They have finally hit their peak as of now and so wouldn't this make the most sense to play us? When they appear to have the upper hand? Hell, we even busted the kneecaps off of them in a scrimmage last year. It was definitely not necessary to group Kansas State into this conversation. Not one iota. And for that you should be ashamed.

                            Originally posted by Snapshot9
                            Some of you HARP so much on here, you begin to sound like Rodney Dangerfield. The only way we are going to get that respect we feel like we deserve is TO WIN THE BALL GAMES ... period. Getting to the Sweet Sixteen in '06 got us a lot of respect and recognition, and helped our recruiting efforts, not to mention, we might not have gotten HCGM without it.
                            Generally speaking, the conference we have aligned ourselves with has been gaining RESPECT... especially in RESPECT to recent NCAA games against Kansas. KU is a couple points away from being 0-3 against the Valley in the elite events of all events - the NCAA Tournament - in the last 5 years. What more do you EFFING want? In regard to WSU, I think we have done our fair share of turning this program around from the dark days of the 1990's. I'm pretty sure most college basketball gurus out there would consider us to be a pretty decent program in the last few years. We have done our share of winning, even reaching the Sweet 16 in 06 and what did that give us the following year? Well, we had a chance to play KU in Lawrence in a one-and-done deal on national tv and guess who turned that down? YUP. If getting to the Sweet 16 is not enough respect, then nothing will satisfy you or those clowns. If there was a time to prove your theory right, that would have been it.. but guess what? It DIDN'T happen.

                            And one other thing, you can't gain respect if you don't play. The table has been laid out several times for some very generous offers to the schools to the north. And each and every time that respect is thrown out the window. How the hell do you expect to get respect if you're treated like pondscum from the onset?

                            Originally posted by Snapshot9
                            We have to EARN that respect... period. What have we done lately to earn it? Sure, we went 25-10 last year, and I wanted us in the Big Dance as much as anyone, but we ended up letting one player from Nevada beat us in the NIT in the FIRST GAME, a dismal failure in my eyes. Is that team ball, to let one player beat you?
                            This has already been summarized in the last paragraphs. What will it take oh wise one to EARN that respect? Going 30-0 and winning a National Championship? You lay it out for me. I really don't understand how Luke Babbit has anything to do with this? Not really a "dismal failure" in my eyes. It was an NIT game for a team that had aspirations of the NCAA's. A run through the NIT would have garnered us as much respect as me going over to your house and pissing on your front lawn.

                            Originally posted by Snapshot9
                            Let's do our talking on the court, and all things we deserve will happen accordingly.
                            We have done plenty of talking and nothing is coming. In reality, it's all about $$$$ and fear. It's as simple as that. The "lose-lose" scenarios the opposition constantly parades around is an old, tired, and faulty argument. It's simply about 3 in-state institutions playing the game of basketball. And for one of the schools, it's pretty much on their terms, however they want it. But yet, it still isn't enough. How could you not say it's fear? It really comes down to "why not"?

                            Snap, don't embarrass us with this comedy anymore. Please?

                            And nighttool, let's see a rebuttal of more than a sentence, like I was ridiculed for. Or maybe that's asking too much?
                            In no way am I a fan of ShockerFever, but he nailed this one.

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                            • Being a fat tool addicted to porn, I have nothing to add to the superior synopsis provided by 'Fever.

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                              • Wow, all I did was post a quote from our AD confirming the rumors that been posted here before and it turns into 10 pages of screaming between SF and some KU guy. Entertaining. And impressive passion.

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