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    Basketball Prospectus

    Some potential for "midmajors"

  • #2
    I see that ShockerNet isn't the only basketball-related media where things are a little slow in August.
    The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
    We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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    • #3
      Good read, as was the Mid Major All-Conference article linked in the article.

      I think this sums up why we have recruited well and won under MT and GM.

      Very rarely do I think about "missed" recruits but I still wonder why MT didn't show more interest to Josh Young. IIRC, Josh had interest in WSU, but we had no interest in him.
      "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
      -John Wooden

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      • #4
        I got bored half way thru, so I'm not entirely sure what he was getting at and I'm not sure it was worth the space. What I got thru was nothing remotely close to outside the box thinking or whatever he was shooting for. Maybe I had to read further...
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        • #5
          I think it's an interesting read, but I have to take exception to one of his takes:

          Originally posted by Drew Cannon
          . . . if I were coaching at a mid-major I'd try to put together a team like this (built entirely on known quantities who were available at that level recently): Young, Pat Calathes from St. Joe’s, Nate Funk from Creighton, Jeremy Crouch from Bradley, and Will Thomas from George Mason.
          Well, if I were coaching at a mid-major I would try to put together a team like this:

          Blair, Gabe
          Brown, Derek
          Durley, J.T.
          Ellis, Aaron
          Felter (but I hardly knew her!), Mason
          Hamilton, Jerome
          Hatch, Graham
          Kyles, David
          Mayes, Bryce
          Murry, Toure'
          Richardson, Tyler
          Stutz, Garrett
          Williams, Demetric
          Ragland, Joe
          Smith, Ben
          Orukpe, Ehimen

          Bring it!!
          Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kung Wu
            I think it's an interesting read, but I have to take exception to one of his takes:

            Originally posted by Drew Cannon
            . . . if I were coaching at a mid-major I'd try to put together a team like this (built entirely on known quantities who were available at that level recently): Young, Pat Calathes from St. Joe’s, Nate Funk from Creighton, Jeremy Crouch from Bradley, and Will Thomas from George Mason.
            Well, if I were coaching at a mid-major I would try to put together a team like this:

            Blair, Gabe
            Brown, Derek
            Durley, J.T.
            Ellis, Aaron
            Felter (but I hardly knew her!), Mason
            Hamilton, Jerome
            Hatch, Graham
            Kyles, David
            Mayes, Bryce
            Murry, Toure'
            Richardson, Tyler
            Stutz, Garrett
            Williams, Demetric
            Ragland, Joe
            Smith, Ben

            Bring it!!
            :good:

            Except you forgot Ehimen
            Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
            RIP Guy Always A Shocker
            Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
            ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
            Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
            Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SubGod22
              Except you forgot Ehimen
              Doh! Fixed!
              Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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              • #8
                I'm not sure what the author's point of the article was, but what I took from it is that schools like WSU can attract the kid that doesn't fit the mold of the typical 1-2-3-4-or 5. I've always thought there's so much more to a basketball player than trying to fit him into traditional positions.

                My guess is that the author spent July at many of the same recruiting spots as D1 coaches, and noticed several athletes that aren't rated as high as others because they're not traditional, and therefore will have an excellent opportunity to plug in with a smaller school.

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                • #9
                  The premise is quite simple - There are overlooked and undervalued tweeners that are good ball players and available on the recruiting trail. X would be the perfect example. Seems very similar to the Money Ball philosophy. Even here at SN we're often times guilty of defining a player by position just because +/- 2 in. AE seems to be the present example.

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                  • #10
                    I'm not sure exactly how this applies. A coach looks at his roster, who he has, who is coming in and who might be available. At some point it all becomes a game of numbers. And that is why we aren't getting paid the big buck to coach the Shockers.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BostonWu
                      The premise is quite simple - There are overlooked and undervalued tweeners that are good ball players and available on the recruiting trail. X would be the perfect example. Seems very similar to the Money Ball philosophy. Even here at SN we're often times guilty of defining a player by position just because +/- 2 in. AE seems to be the present example.
                      Good analogy BostonWu. At 6'7", was X a 3 or a 4? I think when a coach has some tweeners on the team, he has to look at their talent, and find a way to adjust his team to them to get the most production out of them.

                      This could cause some matchup problems, but a good coach has to be flexible in his thinking.

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