Lindy's

[tropicalshox]

Lindy's preseason ranking for the Valley (written by the Creighton beat writer) has the Shockers in 3rd place.

[WuDrWu]

Was it by the beat writer or Matt Perrault? He said, I think I remember correctly, on the rivals website that he was writing an article for Lindys and one other magazine.

[tropicalshox]

I was told it was not by Matt, but by the beat writer. I don't have his name in front of me but my correspondent gave me a name other than Matt. He brought the rag. I don't think Matt would of gave us 3rd!

[RoyalShock]

Steve Pivovar.

[Ashockalypse]

Wasn't he a Creighton baseball player?

[shockerfan]

Was it by the beat writer or Matt Perrault? He said, I think I remember correctly, on the rivals website that he was writing an article for Lindys and one other magazine.

Matt had said that he wrote an article ranking the recruiting classes of each school. And you are right, he did say it was for Lindy's and one other publication. Bet we are like #10 on his list....LOL

[shockball]

Pivovar is a CU alum. He has been Altman's and Rasmussen's embedded minon at the Omaha World Herald for years. Don't know if he played baseball.

[electricmayhem]

Pivovar is a CU alum. He has been Altman's and Rasmussen's embedded minon at the Omaha World Herald for years. Don't know if he played baseball.

My source said Pivovar went to Nebraska-Omaha in the 70s.

My problem with this preview in Lindy's is that it's very CU-heavy. I know the CU guy wrote it, but it seems like a love-fest to me.

Also, Osiris listed as the #19 small forward in the nation? Did he switch positions?

I still believe the national media doesn't know the "smaller" conferences well enough to rank players. No MVC players in the top-100. That's disappointing.

[shockerfan]

Pivovar is a CU alum. He has been Altman's and Rasmussen's embedded minon at the Omaha World Herald for years. Don't know if he played baseball.

My source said Pivovar went to Nebraska-Omaha in the 70s.

My problem with this preview in Lindy's is that it's very CU-heavy. I know the CU guy wrote it, but it seems like a love-fest to me.

Also, Osiris listed as the #19 small forward in the nation? Did he switch positions?

I still believe the national media doesn't know the "smaller" conferences well enough to rank players. No MVC players in the top-100. That's disappointing.

Yeah, it appears CU heavy, but it wasn't TOO bad overall. The part that was CU heavy was that d-bag Matt Perrault's article about the recruits and newcomers. Man...talk about a man crush on that Bock kid. He takes up about 90% of the article with that recruit. He throws a couple small bones to a few other schools....but not even a nod to any WSU recruits....not surprising. Although...maybe I missed 1 sentence about a WSU recruit as I didn't waste my time reading every word....but I don't think I did.

[spinner]

I was wondering rated 3 rd. in the valley is great. Where did rivals rank us Nationally and where did we end up last year, i tried to look it up but could not find anything.

[shockerfan]

Here are some quick notes about what Lindy's says/predicts about our non-conf opponents...just thought it would be interesting....(hopefully I'm not breaking rules as I'm just paraphrasing the articles)

Fairleigh Dickinson :

- 2008-2009 Record (7-23 overall; 6-12 in conference - tied for 9th)
- Has a new coach this year - Greg Vetrone. Worked his way up from the high school ranks 2 years ago. Has been an assitant for past 2 years.
- Predicted 11th in the Northeast Conference
- Returns 3 starters from last year including leading scorer 6' 3" G Sean Baptiste (16.3 ppg, 5.9rpg)


Pitt :

- 2008-2009 Record (31-5; 15-3 in conference - tied for 2nd)
- Predicted 7th in what should be a little bit weaker Big East
- Returns only 1 starter from last year 6'3" G Jermaine Dixon (8.4 ppg, 2.0 apg)
- Has a pretty highly touted freshman in 6'9" F Dante Taylor (top 30 recruit). He's expected to step in place of DeJuan Blair.


Alcorn St :

- 2008-2009 record (6-25; 4-14 in conference - tied for 9th)
- Coached by 2nd year head coach Larry Smith
- Predicted 5th in the 10 team Southwestern Athletic Conference
- Returns 2 starters from last year including leading scorer and defensive specialist 6'3" G Troy Jackson (20 ppg, 4.7 rpg) He was a first team conference player last year.


Texas Southern :

- 2008-2009 record (7-25; 7-11 in conference - tied for 6th)
- Coached by 2nd year head coach Tony Harvey
- Predicted 9th in the SWAC
- Returns 2 starters from last year including leading scorer and 2nd team all-conference player 6'6" G DeAndre Hall (13.8ppg, 4.0 rpg)
- Did not win a single non-conference game last year


SC Upstate :

- 2008-2009 record (9-21 overall; 8-12 in conference - 8th)
- Coach Eddie Payne has been at USC Upstate for 6 years (109-99)
- Predicted 10th in the A-Sun
- Returns 3 starters from last year. They did lose their leading scorer, but return 2nd leading scorer 7'3" C Nick Schneiders (9.5 ppg, 6.1 rpg)


Cleveland St :

- 2008-2009 record (26-11; 12-6 in conference - tied for 3rd)
- Coached by Gary Waters (57-45 in 3 seasons at CSU; 228-180 overall)
- predicted 4th in the Horizon
- Returns 2 starters from last year, but lost their leading scorer. They do, however, return 1st team all-conference selection 6'1" G Norris Cole (13.3 ppg, 2.5 rpg)


UMKC :

- 2008-2009 record (7-24 overall; 3-15 in conference - 10th)
- Coached by 2nd year head coach Matt Brown (18-45 in 2 seasons)
- predicted 9th out of 10 in the Summit
- Returns 3 starters, but did lose their top 2 scorers from last year. They lost 2 of the guys that killed us the last 2 years....Dane Brumagin and Reggie Hamilton! Top returning starter is 6'6" F Spencer Johnson (10.7 ppg, 6.6 rpg)
- Interesting note: They do have an incoming freshman by the name of Kirk Korver....yep you got it....ANOTHER ONE!!!
- Interesting note #2: Transfer from Evansville...Jay Cousinard...will be elidgible this year.


TCU :

- 2008-2009 record (14-17 overall; 5-11 in the conference - 7th)
- In his 2nd year with TCU they are coached by Jim Christian
- Predicted 6th in the MWC
- Returns 3 starters from last year. They lost leading scorer 6'8" Kevin Langford but return 2nd leading scorer 6'9" F/C Zvonko Buljan (12.3 ppg, 7.8 rpg). He was also named Newcomer of the year.


Texas Tech :

- 2008-2009 record (14-19 overall; 3-13 in conference - 11th)
- Coached by 2nd year head coach Pat Knight
- Predicted 12th in the Big 12
- Return 4 starters from last year. However, they did lose sharpshooter 6'3" G Alan Voskuil. Their best scorer returning is 5'11" John Roberson (13.9 ppg, 6.4 apg).


ND St :

- 2008-2009 record (26-7 overall; 16-2 in conference - 1st)
- Coached by 2nd year head coach Saul Phillips
- Predicted 6th in the Summit
- Returns only 1 starter from last year's NCAA tourney team...6'7" F Michael Tveidt (9.8 ppg, 3.3 rpg)



Possible teams we could face in Kansas City:


Texas :

- 2008-2009 record (32-12 overall; 9-7 in conference - tied for 4th)
- Predicted 2nd in the Big 12
- Lost AJ Abrams, however, they do return 3 starters and have pretty good newcomers to throw into the mix. The leading scorer returning from last year is 6'7" G/F Damion James (15.4 ppg, 9.2 rpg).
- Jai Lucas (transfer from Florida) will be elidgible this year.
- They have the nations #1 prospect in 6'3" G Avery Bradley


Iowa :

- 2008-2009 record (15-17 overall; 5-13 in conference - 10th)
- Predicted 11th in the Big 10
- Lost leading scorer Jake Kelly when he transfered to Indiana St
- Return 2 starters...leading scorer returning is 6'5" G Matt Gatens (10.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg)

[tropicalshox]

I was wondering rated 3 rd. in the valley is great. Where did rivals rank us Nationally and where did we end up last year, i tried to look it up but could not find anything.

I don't know about last year but Rivals has this year's bottom of the Valley like this:

7th: InSt.
8th: Drake
9th: MSU
10th: Evansville

They are working their way up. Stay tuned.

[tropicalshox]

Here's a lot more info on Lindy's:

http://bubravesblogger.blogspot.com/2009/09/new-lindys-preseason-college-basketball.html

[wu_shizzle]

Here's a lot more info on Lindy's:

http://bubravesblogger.blogspot.com/...asketball.html

Nice to see the Creighton "love" extends to Illinois...

[shockerfan]

Here's a lot more info on Lindy's:

http://bubravesblogger.blogspot.com/...asketball.html

I agree to part of what he's saying. However, overall it wasn't THAT bad. The worst part that was Creighton, and more Creighton wasn't actually written by the beat writer...it was written by Perrault. So the beef should really be with him. Other than that article MP wrote about recruits the rest was OK. I was surprised to see us picked 3rd and Piv did make it SOUND like anyone other than UNI and Creighton shouldn't really bother showing up.