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  • Originally posted by RoyalShock
    Originally posted by cjp27
    http://blogs.kansas.com/shockwaves/2009/03/06/wichita-state-vs-creighton/

    Final: CU 63, WSU 62. Here’s the explanation from MVC commissioner Doug Elgin. The officials, using a stopwatch, determined the clock started around .4 seconds late. They also determined Woodfox’s shot would have beaten the buzzer even if the clock started on time.

    “We looked at in the truck and it was clear to us the shot left the shooter’s hand between 1.0 and 0.9 left,” Elgin said. “We took a stopwatch to the inbounding of the ball from the time the ball was touched to the time the clock started. The clock clearly started late, there’s no doubt about that. We determined there was at least 0.4 differential between the end of the game and when the shot left the hand. The shot was before the expiration of time (had the clock started properly).”
    Now that's a BS cop out if I've ever heard one.

    At least have the common courtesy to give us a reach around Dougie.
    I can accept that. I thought it was about a half-second late myself. The thing to keep in mind is that due to the natural delay in reaction time, there is no way the clock is going to start at the precise moment the ball is tuched. A tenth or two will pass by the time the ref drops his arm and the timekeeper starts the clock.

    It sucks, but I think it would have counted anyway. There are a whole lot of other things that were in our control that could have kept that situation from ever happening.
    Yeah, like grabbing a rebound underneath the basket instead of fumbling it out of bounds. Game over if he does.

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    • Originally posted by JohannSebastianShock
      Here's the thing about the rebound... Clevin was putting forth effort. That is something that has been pounded into these kids and got them to the point where they could come back and challenge the BJs. If he would've tried a little less, the ball would've bounced a couple of times and the Shocks would have won...
      Thanks!!

      I was wrong for my comments about Murry, as is everyone else here who is "blaming" Hannah. These two young men play their hearts out and no one is more upset about this outcome than they are.

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      • Seriously, can we rewind time and instill this in Hannah's head, and try again?
        Deuces Valley.
        ... No really, deuces.
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        - a smart man

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        • Originally posted by ShockTalk
          I was wrong for my comments about Murry, as is everyone else here who is "blaming" Hannah. These two young men play their hearts out and no one is more upset about this outcome than they are.
          No one's blaming anyone. All we're saying is 'if'.
          Deuces Valley.
          ... No really, deuces.
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          "Enjoy the ride."

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          • Ok, I just watched it again on DVR. The shot left his hand with no more than .6 on the clock.

            Granted I don't have a stopwatch, but much more than .4 went by before the clock started. It was closer to 1-1.5 seconds.

            Nothing would convince me otherwise, except getting a stopwatch and seeing it for myself. If that was .4 seconds, then I can run a 40 in .4 seconds.

            Sure, there were plenty of things that WSU could have done to win the game, but the timekeeper flat out blew this one. WSU deserved to win this game.

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            • Tell Hannah that, because I'm sure he IS blaming himself.

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              • Originally posted by ShockerFever
                Let's face it folks. We got outplayed for 35 minutes.
                As always your so full of it. Shox outplayed CU for the final 15:39 minutes. Outscoring them 37 to 16.

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                • [quote="SB Shock"]
                  Originally posted by ShockerFever
                  Let's face it folks. We got outplayed for 35 minutes.
                  /quote]

                  As always your so full of it. Shox outplayed CU for the final 15:39 minutes. Outscoring them 37 to 16.
                  Ok, I was off by a few minutes.

                  Our guys have the most heart, no doubt. I just said it because I'm trying to make myself sleep easier tonight.
                  Deuces Valley.
                  ... No really, deuces.
                  ________________
                  "Enjoy the ride."

                  - a smart man

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                  • Originally posted by cjp27
                    Ok, I just watched it again on DVR. The shot left his hand with no more than .6 on the clock.

                    Granted I don't have a stopwatch, but much more than .4 went by before the clock started. It was closer to 1-1.5 seconds.
                    I used my stopwatch on KWCH replay on the news and had 1.8 seconds from the time it was touched and was released.

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                    • I thought the clock shoulda had 1.8 on it based upon it's bounce coming off Hannah.
                      “Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones

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                      • If only hannah could have grabbed the ball....

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                        • Originally posted by ShockerFever
                          Originally posted by SB Shock
                          Originally posted by ShockerFever
                          Let's face it folks. We got outplayed for 35 minutes.
                          As always your so full of it. Shox outplayed CU for the final 15:39 minutes. Outscoring them 37 to 16.
                          Ok, I was off by a few minutes.

                          Our guys have the most heart, no doubt. I just said it because I'm trying to make myself sleep easier tonight.
                          The fact is Shox outplayed CU by 15 minutes and change

                          another 9 minutes was practically a draw.

                          Then there was another 16 minute period where CU outplayed WSU.

                          You would probably make a good politician, twisting anything and everything for your own agenda.

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                          • Originally posted by SB Shock
                            Originally posted by ShockerFever
                            Originally posted by SB Shock
                            Originally posted by ShockerFever
                            Let's face it folks. We got outplayed for 35 minutes.
                            As always your so full of it. Shox outplayed CU for the final 15:39 minutes. Outscoring them 37 to 16.
                            Ok, I was off by a few minutes.

                            Our guys have the most heart, no doubt. I just said it because I'm trying to make myself sleep easier tonight.
                            The fact is Shox outplayed CU by 15 minutes and change

                            another 9 minutes was practically a draw.

                            Then there was another 16 minute period where CU outplayed WSU.

                            You would probably make a good politician, twisting anything and everything for your own agenda.
                            Why are you ALL UP IN MY JEWELS? I said we played with HEART. It doesn't take rocket science to maybe consider we were slightly outplayed overall in that game. Does that mean I wanted that garbage shot to go in with extra time on the clock? NO.

                            Take it out on the Valley, the officials, the sCUm tonight. Save your other bs dogging on your own for another night.
                            Deuces Valley.
                            ... No really, deuces.
                            ________________
                            "Enjoy the ride."

                            - a smart man

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                            • Originally posted by ShockerFever
                              Originally posted by SB Shock
                              Originally posted by ShockerFever
                              Originally posted by SB Shock
                              Originally posted by ShockerFever
                              Let's face it folks. We got outplayed for 35 minutes.
                              As always your so full of it. Shox outplayed CU for the final 15:39 minutes. Outscoring them 37 to 16.
                              Ok, I was off by a few minutes.

                              Our guys have the most heart, no doubt. I just said it because I'm trying to make myself sleep easier tonight.
                              The fact is Shox outplayed CU by 15 minutes and change

                              another 9 minutes was practically a draw.

                              Then there was another 16 minute period where CU outplayed WSU.

                              You would probably make a good politician, twisting anything and everything for your own agenda.
                              Why are you ALL UP IN MY JEWELS? I said we played with HEART. It doesn't take rocket science to maybe consider we were slightly outplayed overall in that game. Does that mean I wanted that garbage shot to go in with extra time on the clock? NO.

                              Take it out on the Valley, the officials, the sCUm tonight. Save your other bs dogging on your own for another night.
                              Because I get tired of your negativity. 24-7. Its all the time. You have made VT unbearable and your doing the same thing for SN.

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                              • Originally posted by SB Shock
                                Originally posted by ShockerFever
                                Originally posted by SB Shock
                                Originally posted by ShockerFever
                                Originally posted by SB Shock
                                Originally posted by ShockerFever
                                Let's face it folks. We got outplayed for 35 minutes.
                                As always your so full of it. Shox outplayed CU for the final 15:39 minutes. Outscoring them 37 to 16.
                                Ok, I was off by a few minutes.

                                Our guys have the most heart, no doubt. I just said it because I'm trying to make myself sleep easier tonight.
                                The fact is Shox outplayed CU by 15 minutes and change

                                another 9 minutes was practically a draw.

                                Then there was another 16 minute period where CU outplayed WSU.

                                You would probably make a good politician, twisting anything and everything for your own agenda.
                                Why are you ALL UP IN MY JEWELS? I said we played with HEART. It doesn't take rocket science to maybe consider we were slightly outplayed overall in that game. Does that mean I wanted that garbage shot to go in with extra time on the clock? NO.

                                Take it out on the Valley, the officials, the sCUm tonight. Save your other bs dogging on your own for another night.
                                Because I get tired of your negativity. 24-7. Its all the time. You have made VT unbearable and your doing the same thing for SN.
                                I'm pretty sure people can back me up on this, but I have made a CONCERTED effort to change that in the last few days. Saying CU SLIGHTLY outplayed us is not being NEGATIVE.

                                Go wet yourself.
                                Deuces Valley.
                                ... No really, deuces.
                                ________________
                                "Enjoy the ride."

                                - a smart man

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