Someone fax this to the locker room

[vbird53]

Maybe just maybe ESPN doesnt have thier heads as far up thier arses as many think.Could they see what serious Shocker fans see? a team on the way up? a team that is capable now of defending thier home court against ALMOST anyone? (i did say almost).Someone at Cleveland St must owe someone at ESPN money cuz homeboys are getting sent to an ASS WHOOPIN.

Oh, I can assure you that ESPN didn't give it as much thought as you suggest.

The only piece of info that they may have used is knowing that the Valley is far superior a conference than the Horizon. Let's face it: it's Butler and nobody else.

[Shocker85]

And look at the flip side of this one ...

The Shocks now have a roadie AT Cleveland State in the '09-'10 season. Just what an up-and-coming team needs to bolster the non-con. Ho hum.

--'85.

[ShockerFever]

He is right. It's a horrible game for them, win or lose. What's the problem with saying that?

As BostonWu said, it's not what he said, but how he said it. He comes off as a complete a$$hat, a la a Tom Penders of the Horizon. He's really just setting himself up..

[ShockerFever]

Plus they rehashed the beating that Parsons took on here as well.


KGSO really should do a Shockernet hour at least once a week on either their morning or evening show.

They really should. I agree. Then maybe t12938 (whatever his sn is) would stop complaining about KGSO's threads they post here for every home game.

Come on KGSO.. give SN it's props.

[ShockerFever]

Cleveland State total wins per season since 2001

21
10
10
9
4
8
12
19

Average of 11.6 wins per season. Not exactly the juggernaut that coach makes them out to be.

"Average" probably isnt the best statistic to use with those numbers. The 19 and 21win seasons would skew the accuracy of the measurement. Median is probably more representative

21, 19, 12, 10, 10, 9, 8, 4. That gives 10 wins per season

So, based on that....they're up a little this season

I wonder if you did the same thing with us over the last 10 what it would look like.. :shock:

[rZ]

Cleveland State total wins per season since 2001

21
10
10
9
4
8
12
19

Average of 11.6 wins per season. Not exactly the juggernaut that coach makes them out to be.

"Average" probably isnt the best statistic to use with those numbers. The 19 and 21win seasons would skew the accuracy of the measurement. Median is probably more representative

21, 19, 12, 10, 10, 9, 8, 4. That gives 10 wins per season

So, based on that....they're up a little this season

I wonder if you did the same thing with us over the last 10 what it would look like.. :shock:

Well, if we take the 50's, early 60's, MTXE 70's and 80's, and completely forget that the 90's ever happened....the numbers probably wouldn't look that bad.

[pinstripers]

Guess I can't hear his tone from the written word, but I just can't see a problem. I know this board would whine, and rightly so, if our and Cleveland State's records and RPI's were reversed.

[_kai_]

I am assuming that the team already knows about the comment. Today on Facebook Ramon posted a status update with something to the following effect: "I'm going out there to show these coaches we must be RESPECTED."

I'm paraphrasing from memory, because he erased the status, and currently has a status update of "and no im not talking about my Coaching staff we the best."

The CSU coach did about the worst thing he could have done. He gave a team that has momentum, and is hungry to prove itself, a bag full of ammo. Guaranteed he doesn't know whats coming to him when they step foot inside the chuck.

[ShockerGorilla]

I am assuming that the team already knows about the comment. Today on Facebook Ramon posted a status update with something to the following effect: "I'm going out there to show these coaches we must be RESPECTED."

I'm paraphrasing from memory, because he erased the status, and currently has a status update of "and no im not talking about my Coaching staff we the best."

The CSU coach did about the worst thing he could have done. He gave a team that has momentum, and is hungry to prove itself, a bag full of ammo. Guaranteed he doesn't know whats coming to him when they step foot inside the chuck.

I love it!! :poster_ramon:

[shocks02]

I am assuming that the team already knows about the comment. Today on Facebook Ramon posted a status update with something to the following effect: "I'm going out there to show these coaches we must be RESPECTED."

I'm paraphrasing from memory, because he erased the status, and currently has a status update of "and no im not talking about my Coaching staff we the best."

The CSU coach did about the worst thing he could have done. He gave a team that has momentum, and is hungry to prove itself, a bag full of ammo. Guaranteed he doesn't know whats coming to him when they step foot inside the chuck.

Glad to hear this has gotten to the players. Angry Players + Angry Fans + An opposing coach that thinks they got an easy game = :yahoo:

[ShockerFever]

I am assuming that the team already knows about the comment. Today on Facebook Ramon posted a status update with something to the following effect: "I'm going out there to show these coaches we must be RESPECTED."

I'm paraphrasing from memory, because he erased the status, and currently has a status update of "and no im not talking about my Coaching staff we the best."

The CSU coach did about the worst thing he could have done. He gave a team that has momentum, and is hungry to prove itself, a bag full of ammo. Guaranteed he doesn't know whats coming to him when they step foot inside the chuck.

I <3 it! :clap:

[Ixiah]

FYI - they have been without one of their better players - D'Aundray Brown - for the last few weeks due to a rib injury. He should be back with the team when they come to Koch.

http://clevelandstatehoops.blogspot.com/2009/01/daundray-brown-out-2-3-weeks.html

[newshock1234]

I am assuming that the team already knows about the comment. Today on Facebook Ramon posted a status update with something to the following effect: "I'm going out there to show these coaches we must be RESPECTED."

I'm paraphrasing from memory, because he erased the status, and currently has a status update of "and no im not talking about my Coaching staff we the best."

The CSU coach did about the worst thing he could have done. He gave a team that has momentum, and is hungry to prove itself, a bag full of ammo. Guaranteed he doesn't know whats coming to him when they step foot inside the chuck.

either that or Ramon is a shockernet regular :)

[martymoose]

I am assuming that the team already knows about the comment. Today on Facebook Ramon posted a status update with something to the following effect: "I'm going out there to show these coaches we must be RESPECTED."

I'm paraphrasing from memory, because he erased the status, and currently has a status update of "and no im not talking about my Coaching staff we the best."

The CSU coach did about the worst thing he could have done. He gave a team that has momentum, and is hungry to prove itself, a bag full of ammo. Guaranteed he doesn't know whats coming to him when they step foot inside the chuck.

either that or Ramon is a shockernet regular :)

My bet is he's referring to Valley coaches, he probably couldn't care less or has probably not even heard the CSU coaches comments which are not disrespectful to WSU at all.

I have to agree with the Cleveland State coach, they got hosed. If the situation had been reversed, this thread with already be at 30 pages. Anyone who thinks he is crying and complaining just to complain, is blind. They have to come in and play the hottest 150+ RPI team in the country in the most packed 150+ RPI arena in the country...they got screwed PERIOD!

[Shoxfan11]

I am assuming that the team already knows about the comment. Today on Facebook Ramon posted a status update with something to the following effect: "I'm going out there to show these coaches we must be RESPECTED."

I'm paraphrasing from memory, because he erased the status, and currently has a status update of "and no im not talking about my Coaching staff we the best."

The CSU coach did about the worst thing he could have done. He gave a team that has momentum, and is hungry to prove itself, a bag full of ammo. Guaranteed he doesn't know whats coming to him when they step foot inside the chuck.

either that or Ramon is a shockernet regular :)

My bet is he's referring to Valley coaches, he probably couldn't care less or has probably not even heard the CSU coaches comments which are not disrespectful to WSU at all.

I have to agree with the Cleveland State coach, they got hosed. If the situation had been reversed, this thread with already be at 30 pages. Anyone who thinks he is crying and complaining just to complain, is blind. They have to come in and play the hottest 150+ RPI team in the country in the most packed 150+ RPI arena in the country...they got screwed PERIOD!

No one is arguing against the fact that they got screwed (but it's not like Cleveland State is a powerhouse). It's the way that he said it. As ShockerFever brought up, do you not remember facing Houston in the NIT a few years ago and the things Tom Penders said? This guy seems to be very similar to him..