Casey Crawford did hit the jackpot!

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

It's amazing... with Crawfish supposedly such a bust at Wake Forest, why would people still say this?

The transfer from Wake Forest was supposed to be the Buffs' difference-maker this year.

If he isn't very talented, why would anybody think he would be a "difference maker" in the Big 12?

I think what Crawfish needed was the right coach to "get through to him". Imagine a J.T. Durley not "getting" the right coach. He probably wouldn't even be playing basketball anymore. I submit that if GG could get lazy Durley to play hard, he could have gotten Crawfish to play hard as well. However, that was a different time and a different recruiting year. Crawfish either needs to wake up or he is going to have a lot of "woulda, coulda, shoulda," memories.


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WSU vs. UNI championship game

## Player TOT-FG FG 3-PT FGA FG FGA FT FTA REBOUNDS OF DE TOT PF TP A TO BLK S MIN
31 Durley, JT.......... f 2 5 0 1 1 1 2 4 6 3 5 1 8 0 0 33

http://www.mvc.org/mbb/stats/mvc09.htm?SPSID=36371&SPID=2901&DB_OEM_ID=7600

I think Durley may still need a little work; I would not tout his accomplishments too loudly just yet.

Help me understand why you quoted Cold's post from how long ago and use this ONE GAME as a reason to "put him in check"

Im trying to decide if your just regular stupid or really stupid.

[SpanglerFan316]

Durley has had a "motivation" problem since he got here; he'll play hard in one game (or one half) and not in another. A coach (e.g. HCGM) can only do so much. The WSU@UNI game demonstrates that even at the end of his junior season, Durley disappears in some games - important games.

Crawford seems to have a motivation problem. Gregg Marshall is not a miracle worker. We'll never know if HCGM could motivate CC to play hard in every game. For Durley, we'll see next year if, as a senior, he can play hard and play smart every game. If it doesn't happen, I'm not going blame coach Marshall.

Your other comments are not worthy of reply.

[pogo]

IMHO, for an All-Big 12 academic member, who is graduating with a degree in political science, and has had as lack-luster, bounce-around college basketball history, going off to pursue a career overseas as a professional basketball player sounds as mismanaged as past basketball decisions. That being said, I wish him the best and hope it all works out for him.

Why? He's graduating with a degree and moving on with a new chapter of his life. What purpose would it serve to stay around at Colorado. Only reason I can think is:

1. He want's to earn a advance degree and have Colorado pay for it - doesn't sound like he's interested at least pursuing a higher degree at CU.

2. He want's to continue to develop his basketball skills for the NBA - well we know he's not going to the NBA.

3. He wants to stay around and be part of a winning program that has a chance to win a national championship - well it is CU, so we know that ain't it.

So I don't see anything mismanaged about it.

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[wu_shizzle]

If Crawford wants to play professional ball at any level, he should have stayed in school. He certainly could use another year to try to build up some type of basketball resume.

It appears (and has for several years) that the majority of Crawford's basketball talent is a figment of his imagination.

He's 6'9 245lbs and shot 44% from 3 in the BigXII.

That's all the resume he needs to make some decent coin overseas.

[SubGod22]

He also averaged something like 4 points and 2 boards on a bad team. That doesn't say much for him at all.

[ShockTalk]

IMHO, for an All-Big 12 academic member, who is graduating with a degree in political science, and has had as lack-luster, bounce-around college basketball history, going off to pursue a career overseas as a professional basketball player sounds as mismanaged as past basketball decisions. That being said, I wish him the best and hope it all works out for him.

Why? He's graduating with a degree and moving on with a new chapter of his life. What purpose would it serve to stay around at Colorado. Only reason I can think is:

1. He want's to earn a advance degree and have Colorado pay for it - doesn't sound like he's interested at least pursuing a higher degree at CU.

2. He want's to continue to develop his basketball skills for the NBA - well we know he's not going to the NBA.

3. He wants to stay around and be part of a winning program that has a chance to win a national championship - well it is CU, so we know that ain't it.

So I don't see anything mismanaged about it.

Never said he should stay at Colorado, unless your #1 was relevant to him and get that higher degree paid for. I don't believe anyone would see anything mismanaged about that (unless he really didn't care about pursuing that as a career maker). As for moving on with a new chapter, what's so new? Looks to me like another page in the continuing saga of basketball travels. Maybe I would be surprised at the number of All-Conference academic players who have as low of stats at a bottom conference feeder that view pursuing a professional basketball career in Europe as promising.

Besides, it's just my opinion. I can't help it you don't see any of my points as possibly a little relevant. You look at it as a well thought out life move. I think a true new chapter utilizing his academic strengths as more positive. In any case, maybe he just can't help but scratch that itch and I wish him success.

[shockball]

Dennis Latimore from Halstead took a similiar path. 2 years @ Arizona, a redshirt year, and then 1 season at Notre Dame. He had obtained his degree in 4 years, then went oveseas to make some money.

More power to both of them.

[SubGod22]

Dennis Latimore from Halstead took a similiar path. 2 years @ Arizona, a redshirt year, and then 1 season at Notre Dame. He had obtained his degree in 4 years, then went oveseas to make some money.

More power to both of them.

I'm not entirely positive as I didn't follow Latimore closely but I think he had better collegiate stats than Crawford.

[shockball]

You are right SG. Dennis was ccntributing but not getting a lot of minutes at Arizona. That team was loaded. He contributed greatly to ND. He brought a lot more to the table than Crawford.

[rjl]

Yeah. Geeze, Casey. What a moron.

Got a free four years of college in both North Carolina and Colorado and is now going to play in Europe (what a dump!)

How foolish.

[ShockTalk]

Yeah. Geeze, Casey. What a moron.

Got a free four years of college in both North Carolina and Colorado and is now going to play in Europe (what a dump!)

How foolish.

Yeah. Geeze, rjl. Way to put words in our mouth. Never said he was a moron, in fact, I assume just the opposite given his All-Conference academic standing.

But now that you mention it, I'm guessing that there have been a fair share of those who got four free years of college more due to their athelitic ability than their mental prowess. So quality decision making had little to do with that. As for going to play in Europe, I'm sure there are those with much better basketball credentials that this avenue didn't work out for them. That doesn't mean he'll fail, the odds of any real success are probably just going to be a little longer.

How foolish? That depends on how each utilized that 4 years of free college, both from an academic and athletic position. The future will tell. I hope Casey does well.

[rjl]

What makes you think I'm putting words in your mouth, ShockTalk?

Is there anything in my post that would make you think it was targeted towards you? If so, that's all on you, bud.

[ShockTalk]

What makes you think I'm putting words in your mouth, ShockTalk?

Is there anything in my post that would make you think it was targeted towards you? If so, that's all on you, bud.

Sorry. :cry: Thought you were possibly disagreeing with those of us who thought his decision was, well, maybe a long shot by describing what you thought we/I meant.

Didn't realize you felt that strongly about his decision. Maybe you shouldn't call him a moron, though.

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