2008-2009 Shocker Men's Prouty Ratings

[1979Shocker]

I think to get to the kind of seasonal rating you want, you will probably need to define one for yourself as I haven’t seen your question addressed elsewhere. You may want to consider weighting the seasonal figure that you currently calculate by the percentage of total games played in. By defining it yourself, you gain some leeway in defining a factor for games not played due to injury.

I understand that there's a flaw in the formula that penalizes a player when they don't play in a loss, and conversely rewards them for wins.

Another way that might give you a good seasonal rating would be to take each of the individual game Prouty ratings, multiply them by minutes played in that game, then sum them, and divide back through by minutes played in all games. This way there is no reward or penalty for games missed. I haven't been back through the formulas (I'll look later) and see if this method rewards or penalizes too much based on minutes played alone. This is an interesting endeavor.

I also wonder about the effect on sitting down a selfish player (who might have a good Prouty rating) but has an overall negative effect on the team's performance. This could explain why the team combination with Hatch in the game is better than the standard starting lineup with Durley (instead of Stutz).

I'm pretty much using all games instead of only the games they played in.

[1979Shocker]

Wichita State vs Southern Illinois Prouty Ratings

              SIU     All 
Player       Game    Games 
Hannah       0.285   0.368
Clemente     0.425   0.341
Murry        0.381   0.331
Hawkins      0.178   0.310
Griskenas*   0.381   0.308
Durley*      0.455   0.292
Stutz        0.165   0.289
Chamberlain  0.307   0.266
Michael      0.000   0.227
Kyles*       0.150   0.226
Hatch        0.169   0.224
Ellis        0.000   0.165
Britton      0.000   0.043 
Steven       0.000   0.001 
TEAM         0.351   0.352

Team Winning Percentage: 0.400

* Improved from previous game.

[RoyalShock]

How does Clemente score a .425?

[SubGod22]

How does Clemente score a .425?

I wondered the same thing

[im4wsu]

Clemente = .425 That's what shooting 2-2, 4 rebounds in 20 minutes will do.

Updated plus/minus through SIU game. Yellow shaded numbers are those better than the team average.

[1979Shocker]

How does Clemente score a .425?

He really didn't do anything bad. No missed free throws 0-0, no missed field goals 2-2. Only 1 TO, but the 2 assists counteracted that. Plus he was only in for 20 minutes. So there was nothing he did bad that would have given him a worse rating.

It would have been nice if he could have done more of the good things.

[SubGod22]

I sometimes forget poor D and effort don't take away from things. That's why he only got 20 minutes. And that was more than I thought he had.

[1979Shocker]

Wichita State vs Drake Prouty Ratings

              DU      All 
Player       Game    Games 
Hannah*      0.606   0.379
Clemente     0.035   0.330
Murry        0.328   0.327
Griskenas    0.348   0.305
Hawkins     -0.169   0.296
Durley       0.333   0.291
Stutz       -0.498   0.281 
Chamberlain  0.019   0.255
Hatch*       0.352   0.233
Michael      0.000   0.226
Kyles        0.009   0.217
Ellis*       0.389   0.185
Britton      0.000   0.043 
Steven       0.000   0.001 
TEAM         0.365   0.346

Team Winning Percentage: 0.375

* Improved from previous game.

[im4wsu]

Updated Plus/Minus through Drake Game

The starting lineup for Drake played 11 minutes and the +/- was +38. In all prior games, that lineup has played a total of only 5 minutes with a +31.5 rating.

[im4wsu]

I've tried to graph the Plus/Minus for each player over all sixteen games to get a feel for the consistency or inconsistency of each player. Hope it works and is readable.

EDIT: Increase the size of the names

[t7017s]

If only I could read the names on your very well done graphs...

[SubGod22]

They appear to be in numerical order if that helps.

[im4wsu]

If only I could read the names on your very well done graphs...

I'll try to enlarge names tomorrow.

[im4wsu]

If only I could read the names on your very well done graphs...

Names are now larger type.

[t7017s]

Thank you very much kind sir.