2017-18 National Rankings

[wichshock65]

AP voting is starting to show up.

[WuShock Reaper]

"Jerry Carino's preseason Associated Press Top 25 and All-America ballots" - NJ Hoops Vave

By Jerry Carino
Published 5:00 a.m. ET Oct. 24, 2017 | Updated 10:51 a.m. ET Oct. 24, 2017

http://www.app.com/story/sports/coll...ots/791156001/

"Once again, I have New Jersey’s lone vote in the Associated Press Top 25 poll for men’s basketball. Below are my ballots for the preseason Top 25 and the preseason All-America team.

The poll comes out Nov. 1 and the All-American team is announced Nov. 6.

1, Michigan State (20-15)
2. Duke (28-9)
3. Wichita State (31-5)
4. Kansas (31-5)
5. Arizona (32-5)
6. Villanova (32-4)
7. North Carolina (33-7)
8. Kentucky (32-6)
9. Cincinnati (30-6)
10. Notre Dame (26-10)...

Three thoughts:

1. Michigan State is the clear favorite. Best player, best coach, and an explosive mix of experience and talent. I was surprised to see Duke ranked No. 1 in the coaches’ poll after last year’s frosh-heavy unit came up short. When in doubt, I give experience the edge in this sport — especially in a sight-unseen preseason poll.

2. I’m bullish on Wichita State as a Final Four team. Yes, I realize its two best players are sidelined by injuries right now, but I’m taking the long view here. The Shockers are loaded. I’m also very high on St. Mary’s. Like Wichita, the Gaels have a ton back, a winning tradition and a big-time star to carry the banner. They could be this year’s Gonzaga...."

[WuShock Reaper]

"2018 T-Rank College Basketball Projections"

http://www.barttorvik.com/trankpre.php

Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2017

1-Arizona
2-Wichita St.
3-Michigan St.
4-Villanova
5-Kansas
6-Duke
7-Kentucky
8-Virginia
9-Florida
10-Cincinnati

[Cdizzle]

Carino was one of the guys I thought might throw us a vote for 1st. There's a guy in SC and a guy in LA that have also usually voted us highly.

[Shocker1976]

"2018 T-Rank College Basketball Projections"

http://www.barttorvik.com/trankpre.php

Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2017

1-Arizona
2-Wichita St.
3-Michigan St.
4-Villanova
5-Kansas
6-Duke
7-Kentucky
8-Virginia
9-Florida
10-Cincinnati

Predicting five (5) losses for the Shockers; which is two losses more than IMO the Shockers will suffer.

[WSUwatcher]

Mr. T-Rank predicts a lot of losses just in general, 1976 -- the only team he has with fewer is Arizona with four, and Michigan State is at five along with WSU. Everyone else is expected to lose more often.

In practice, it would be pretty surprising (at least to me) if when conference tournament time comes only one team has as few as four losses.

[Shocker1976]

In practice, it would be pretty surprising (at least to me) if when conference tournament time comes only one team has as few as four losses.

IMO only two teams in the AAC have a shot at entering the conference tournament with four or fewer losses - the Shockers and the Bearcats. I am pulling for that team to be the Shockers!

[FadedCrown]

We are supposed to be number 1 in RPI?

[wichshock65]

We are supposed to be number 1 in RPI?

Yep

[FadedCrown]

Yep

Does not sound right

[im4wsu]

RealTime RPI shows WSU at #20 in Team Power Ranking shown below. Projected record of 23-5, losses @Baylor,@Okie State, @Cincy,@SMU,@UCF. The home court advantage appears to be 8 points (16 point difference between playing at home versus on the road).

Rank			School	W-L	Index	SOS Rank	SOS	Conf.	Conf. W-L
		1	Villanova Wildcats	0-0	90.15	42	50.06	Bige	0-0
		2	Kansas Jayhawks	0-0	87.75	24	51.57	Big12	0-0
		3	Arizona Wildcats	0-0	86.64	32	50.97	Pac12	0-0
		4	Kentucky Wildcats	0-0	85.50	14	52.32	Sec	0-0
		5	Gonzaga Bulldogs	0-0	85.43	78	48.02	Wcc	0-0
		6	N. Carolina Tar Heels	0-0	83.22	2	53.47	Acc	0-0
		7	UCLA Bruins	0-0	81.77	76	48.24	Pac12	0-0
		8	Duke Blue Devils	0-0	80.97	12	52.41	Acc	0-0
		9	Oregon Ducks	0-0	80.22	35	50.67	Pac12	0-0
		10	Louisville Cardinals	0-0	77.51	3	53.35	Acc	0-0
		11	Baylor Bears	0-0	76.44	6	52.95	Big12	0-0
		12	West Virginia Mountaineers	0-0	73.63	43	50.00	Big12	0-0
		13	SMU Mustangs	0-0	72.02	94	47.25	Aac	0-0
		14	Notre Dame Fighting Irish	0-0	71.54	30	51.05	Acc	0-0
		15	Purdue Boilermakers	0-0	71.30	41	50.17	Big10	0-0
		16	Florida St. Seminoles	0-0	68.88	27	51.38	Acc	0-0
		17	Florida Gators	0-0	68.09	8	52.84	Sec	0-0
		18	Cincinnati Bearcats	0-0	66.64	72	48.53	Aac	0-0
		19	Iowa St. Cyclones	0-0	65.79	20	51.68	Big12	0-0
		20	Wichita St. Shockers	0-0	63.50	156	45.07	Aac	0-0
		21	Butler Bulldogs	0-0	63.06	11	52.48	Bige	0-0
		22	St. Mary's Gaels	0-0	62.07	79	47.98	Wcc	0-0
		23	Virginia Cavaliers	0-0	60.60	5	53.06	Acc	0-0
		24	Wisconsin Badgers	0-0	60.17	64	49.28	Big10	0-0
		25	Michigan Wolverines	0-0	58.96	23	51.58	Big10	0-0

[shocks02]

#5 in ESPN power rankings. http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...power-rankings

[Windiwu]

That realtime rpi looks more like last year, not this year. I don't see Michigan State anywhere in sight either and that sure doesn't sound right.

[Stickboy46]

Since RPI is strictly based on W/L records of teams ... I'm not sure how a realtimeRPI would be useful right now.

[shocks02]

Matt Norlander has Wichita State #5 on his 1-351 rankings. https://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...o-alabama-a-m/

Other AAC teams:
Cincinnati #15
UCF #29
UConn #39
SMU #47
Houston #49
Temple #63
Tulsa #107
Memphis #133
Tulane #188
East Carolina #217
USF #229