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  • #16
    Originally posted by wheathead View Post
    Expect our ranking to drop once they start announcing the last few blue chippers to the blue bloods. It seemed that was the case 2 years ago when the earliest polls started us in the top 10 and by the time the season rolled around we were around 15.
    I'm not sure about that this time around.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by wheathead View Post
      Expect our ranking to drop once they start announcing the last few blue chippers to the blue bloods. It seemed that was the case 2 years ago when the earliest polls started us in the top 10 and by the time the season rolled around we were around 15.
      I agree. But I was hoping for 15-ish to begin with. If we can start there, by Dec. 1st we could be atop the mountain.

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      • #18
        Looks like Gonzaga in a 2nd round game
        For some the glass is half full and for others half empty. My glass is out of ice.
        - said no one ever...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by AndShock View Post
          I think we're being underrated.
          Well, so does Jon Wilner, but you may have your sights set even higher than he does. It's possible that Marshall and the guys are aiming higher, too.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by im4wsu View Post
            Rothstein at FanRagSports Way Too Early Top 25

            10. Wichita State

            Key Losses: None
            Key Newcomers: Samaje Jones
            Projected Starting Five:
            PG Landry Shamet
            SG Conner Frankamp
            SF Markis McDuffie
            PF
            Zach Brown
            C Shaq Morris

            Projected Bench: Darryl Willis, Austin Reaves, Daishon Smith, Rauno Nurger, Rashard Kelly, Samaje Jones
            He's forgetting CJ Keyser. If he stays healthy, CJ could be the next Shocker secret weapon.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by WSUwatcher View Post
              He's forgetting CJ Keyser. If he stays healthy, CJ could be the next Shocker secret weapon.
              And Mitgaard, as well.
              "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
              ---------------------------------------
              Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
              "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

              A physician called into a radio show and said:
              "That's the definition of a stool sample."

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              • #22
                when was the last time that marshall had five starters returning at wichita state?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by WSUwatcher View Post
                  He's forgetting CJ Keyser. If he stays healthy, CJ could be the next Shocker secret weapon.
                  You got that right. His skills are legit. Has 3 point range and isn't shy. GGG prototype.

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                  • #24
                    "WVU No. 11 in way-too-early college basketball preseason poll"- Gazette Mail



                    By John Marshall, The Associated Press
                    April 4, 2017

                    1. Kentucky
                    2. Louisville
                    3. Arizona

                    4. Wichita State. A rebuilding season in 2016-17 turned into a surprise run to the NCAA Tournament. The Shockers return all five starters and will be better next season.

                    5. Duke
                    6. Villanova
                    7. Gonzaga
                    8. North Carolina
                    9. Florida
                    10. Kansas

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by another shocker View Post
                      when was the last time that marshall had five starters returning at wichita state?
                      Last time it was close was the NIT championship season when everyone but Clevin was back. Four starters and a BUNCH of returnees, plus some key newcomers (Joe Ragland and Ben Smith).
                      78-65

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                      • #26
                        "College Basketball Top 25 for 2017-2018 - Super Early Version" - The Big Lead: NCABB

                        A 2016-2017 Top 25 eight months before the season begins? Of course. Last year we did this exercise the day after Villanova defeated North Carolina for the title, and Gonzaga didn’t even make…


                        By: Jason McIntyre
                        04/04/17

                        1. Gonzaga
                        2. Oregon

                        3. Wichita State - This seems high, but when you combine what they return, plus their coach, it makes plenty of sense. If they weren’t seeded wrong, the Shockers had the talent to make a run. But they lost to Kentucky (again) early. The good news: The entire rotation returns, led by Landy Shamet, who was a star as a freshman (20 points in the UK loss). Also, Gregg Marshall didn’t leave, so expectations will be high for the Shockers. A Final Four trip is certainly within reach. Center Shaquille Morris could use some help inside.

                        4. Louisville
                        5. North Carolina
                        6. USC
                        7. Kentucky
                        8. Xavier
                        9. Kansas
                        10. Duke

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                        • #27
                          "College Basketball Top 25 for 2017-2018 - Super Early Version" - The Bleacher Report

                          The confetti hasn't even been swept from the floor in Phoenix, but it's already time to start thinking about who will vie for the 2018 men's basketball national championship in San Antonio...


                          by Kerry Miller
                          04/04/17


                          1. Kentucky
                          2. Villanova
                          3. Gonzaga
                          4. Duke
                          5. Louisville

                          6. Wichita State

                          Noteworthy Departures: None

                          Noteworthy Arrivals: None

                          Projected Starting Five: Landry Shamet, Conner Frankamp, Zach Brown, Markus McDuffie, Shaquille Morris

                          Why They're Here: Every other team that finished the regular season in the AP Top 25 is going to lose at least one starter, and the vast majority of them are losing multiple key contributors to either graduation, the NBA draft or the transfer market.

                          But not Wichita State. As was the case for Saint Mary's and Wisconsin last year, this NCAA tournament bubble team returns everyone worth mentioning and will enter the following season as one of the legitimate candidates to win it all. The Shockers are going to be loaded with veteran experience, likely rolling with a primary nine-man rotation consisting of seven seniors, one junior and one sophomore (Landry Shamet) who played nothing like a freshman in this year's dance.

                          Will Change If... Players opt for the graduate-transfer route. Gregg Marshall has done a great job of keeping players at Wichita State in this era of rampant transferring. However, with seven soon-to-be seniors on the roster, there's always the chance that someone graduates early to explore college basketball's version of free agency.

                          Losing one bench guy wouldn't be the end of the world, but quality depth was Wichita State's biggest strength this season. If multiple seniors go elsewhere, it would become a bit tougher to put the Shockers in the Top 10.

                          7. North Carolina
                          8. Kansas
                          9. West Virginia
                          10. Arizona

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                          • #28
                            "An extremely early top 25 for 2017-18" - SB*Nation

                            There are a ridiculous amount of things that need to happen before we can realistically start looking at the 2017-18 college basketball season, but let's not let that fact be the thing that stands...


                            by Mike Rutherford
                            Apr 4, 2017, 8:00am EDT

                            1. North Carolina
                            2. Duke
                            3. Arizona
                            4. Louisville
                            5. Kansas
                            6. Kentucky
                            7. Florida

                            8. Wichita State -
                            2016-17 Record: 31-5
                            2016-17 Finish: Second Round
                            Don’t be surprised at all if in 2017-18 Wichita State winds up stepping into the role that Gonzaga has inhabited for the past four months. The Shockers should return every key player from a team that won 31 games and got them into the top 10 of the national rankings. The NCAA Tournament Selection Committee’s potential consideration of metrics outside of just the RPI would also help Wichita avoid being massively under-seeded for a fourth straight year.

                            9. West Virginia
                            10. Gonzaga

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by shoxilla View Post
                              Looks like Gonzaga in a 2nd round game
                              Phiseeesshhhh...you know it'll be the Sacremento Kings...I mean Kentucky.
                              FINAL FOURS:
                              1965, 2013

                              NCAA Tournament:
                              1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021

                              NIT Champs - 1 (2011)

                              AP Poll History of Wichita St:
                              Number of Times Ranked: 157
                              Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
                              Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
                              Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

                              Highest Recent AP Ranking:
                              #3 - Dec. 2017
                              #2 ~ March 2014

                              Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
                              #2 ~ March 2014
                              Finished 2013 Season #4

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                              • #30
                                Steve Boleski‏ @steveboleski 2h
                                2 hours ago


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                                Lunardi makes Wichita State a 3 seed in initial 2017-18 bracket. Guessing Palm has them "first four out"...

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