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Congrats to Landry!Go Shocks!Comment
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Congratulations to a fine player and a fine young man! Come on back next year and work on putting your Jesery in the rafters.Comment
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If Landry stays here, he has a chance at beating Fred's assist record. He would also be on pace to be a Top 10 all time scorer. Assist to turnover looks good so far. Landry has a good chance of being in the rafters if he decides to stay.Comment
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Beating Fred's assist record: Fred had 637 assists, Landry has 288 so far. Fred averaged 183 assists over his last 3 years, Landry had 166 assists last year. There's a pretty good chance Landry would be sharing the PG duties next year.Originally posted by ShockerMarch View Post
Top 10 all time scorer: Jamar Howard sits at #10 with 1,571 points, Landry has 914 so far. Landry would need 658 points next year which is averaging about 20.6 points per game in a system that has historically thrived on spreading out the scoring along with him being the point of emphasis for every defense we face. Note: Cleanthony scored 1,135 points in 2 years with 591 points in 36 games his senior year.
A/TO does look very good at 2.67 and Landry is already 2nd on the list. However, to catch Fred (just as an example), if Landry had the same number of assists as he did last year,166, he could only have 39 TOs, or a 4.26 A/TO, to catch Fred. Note: Unlucky for Conner that he finished his Shocker career 6 assists short of qualifying in this category. 194 assists, 41 TOs, 4.73 A/TO.
This all assumes Landry stays only 1 more year, not 2.Comment
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Poor Conner. Someone hit the lights in CKA, Conner needs a few more A's.
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McDonald’s Game selection not an indicator of NBA success. ESPN study with @jeffborzello shows that just 42 percent of McDonald’s All-Americans played in more than 25 career NBA games:
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I imagine that FAR less than 42 percent of all D1 players play in more than 25 career NBA games, which suggests McDonald's Game selection is significantly correlated with NBA success, and therefore at least some kind of indicator.Originally posted by pinstripers View PostComment
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Agree. That actually seems kind of high really. Pretty good predictor. -
I read it a little differently. I read that being a hamburger great ISN'T a guarantee of NBA success, NOT that it is better or worse than the average D1 player. Point being it is really difficult to be an NBA regular, hamburger acknowledgement or not. -
OregonShocker, that's probably what he meant. "Guarantee," "promise," or "assurance" all would've fit in the Tweet instead of "indicator." You're probably right that is what he intended, though. I just take issue with his presentation of the information to suggest McDonald's All Americans are no more likely to make the NBA than anyone else.
As a side note, I do think it would be interesting to know what the best indicator of NBA success is. Is it the burger boys? Is it burger boys that play at a particular group of schools? Is it consensus All-Americans?
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Sorry to double quote you, but this is just a ridiculous assertion from Jeff *******. Not only is 42 percent a pretty good indicator, he actually had the stat backwards. The study actually said 42 percent of McDonald's All Americans play fewer than 25 career NBA games. That suggests 58 percent are playing more than that!Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
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Jeez what a misrepresentation of data that tweet was. 43.1% play two seasons or more of games in the NBA. That's an incredible correlation. Also 8.3% make an all star game. What does that average out to for non-McDonald's game players? Given that 1% only even make the league... It's incredibly small. So... Yeah appearing in that game would be a good indicator of success.
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No doubt that you are right that a majority of NBA stars and other stable players have significant roles in the NBA. However, I am surprised that as many as 42% fall short (I would say fail) of their and McDonalds AA big wigs expectations. That 42% is sold a bill of goods that they will be stars too and will become rich multi-millionaires (most of them probably don't earn degrees or learnn good money decision making) when in fact I would venture a bet that most of the 42 percent lose the wealth they do get from their cup of coffee in the NBA in a short period of time.Originally posted by jdshock View Post
some of that 42% probably follow the Toure Murry model and play overseas. We have Fred, Ron, Toure, Tekele, Garrett and some others who played at WSU who were just as successful as those McDonald's AA's 42 percent monetarily. And those WSU players were all no star, 1 star, 2 stars, and Fred was even a 3 star.Comment
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Will Perry Ellis ever play in the NBA? If not, he will fall into that 42 percent. To think that some pegged him as a potential one-and-done guy...78-65Comment
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Per his instagram, Landy forgoing JR and SR year and declaring for the draft.Comment
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I don't do Instagram, so assuming this to be true, we need a little clarification, because you can declare for the draft without losing your eligibility as long as you don't sign with an agent (Landry did so last year, in fact).
So is he reported to be declaring (not necessarily a big deal), or is he reported to be declaring AND signing with an agent and thereby forgoing his last two years? Maybe a link would be helpful.
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Given he explicitly said he's forgoing his JR and SR years, I'm gonna assume he's hiring an agent.Originally posted by bighouse View PostComment
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He added a really long heartfelt post if you can read it. Best of luck to himComment
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Next year is gonna be fun.Comment
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