MVC Seeding and Potential Sat Opponent

[im4wsu]

ROFLMAO - and would the American move ahead of the PAC 12?

I can'tr reporduce the KenPom calculations, but it might move from 6.5 to 8.1, so cuts the gap, but not enough.

[Topshock]

*************AVG RPI in bracket ***AVG BPI in bracket***AVG RPI of Semi Opponent*** AVG BPI of Semi Opponent
-----------------------(4 teams)--------------(4 teams)--------------------game------------------------------game
Illinois State(1 seed) -178-----------------------158- ----------------------180---------------------------------138-
Wichita State(2 seed) -221----------------------209------------------------169---------------------------------150-

[Shockers5150]

wichita state-loyola would be a really good mvc finals game.

That's my pick

[wichshock65]

That's my pick

Not me. Bring on ISU and put an end to all the "They weren't at full strength" crap. Better RPI and a hell of a lot more fun to whip.

[newshock1234]

Something just tells me its gonna be us vs Loyola on Sunday.

[jazztrane]

When do they announce pep rally info, etc? We're driving up on Friday and want to be there in time if they're doing something.

[WSUwatcher]

The Valley notes on its Arch Madness web site that over the past five seasons, MVC teams have the fourth best record (win %) of any conference with at least 20 games in NCAA play at 13-9 (.591), which ranks behind only the SEC, ACC, and Big 10+4 in that order. (Of course, that's mostly -- in a literal sense -- WSU, at 9-5 for .643 over that span which would rank third, ahead also of the Big 10+4; but still, at least the other Valley teams have played .500 ball in their appearances.)

Just behind the Valley comes the glorious Big East (43-30, .589), and several notches lower is the even more exalted Big 10-2 (aka The Flagship League) at 33-32, or just .508.

[Shocker1976]

The Valley notes on its Arch Madness web site that over the past five seasons, MVC teams have the fourth best record (win %) of any conference with at least 20 games in NCAA play at 13-9 (.591), which ranks behind only the SEC, ACC, and Big 10+4 in that order. (Of course, that's mostly -- in a literal sense -- WSU, at 9-5 for .643 over that span which would rank third, ahead also of the Big 10+4; but still, at least the other Valley teams have played .500 ball in their appearances.)

Just behind the Valley comes the glorious Big East (43-30, .589), and several notches lower is the even more exalted Big 10-2 (aka The Flagship League) at 33-32, or just .508.

Thanks for sharing this data; speaks to what is going to happen in the coming March Madness (IMO)!

[pogo]

When do they announce pep rally info, etc? We're driving up on Friday and want to be there in time if they're doing something.

Pep rallys are two hours before the game at the team hotel.

[Shocktoberfest]

The Valley notes on its Arch Madness web site that over the past five seasons, MVC teams have the fourth best record (win %) of any conference with at least 20 games in NCAA play at 13-9 (.591), which ranks behind only the SEC, ACC, and Big 10+4 in that order. (Of course, that's mostly -- in a literal sense -- WSU, at 9-5 for .643 over that span which would rank third, ahead also of the Big 10+4; but still, at least the other Valley teams have played .500 ball in their appearances.)

Just behind the Valley comes the glorious Big East (43-30, .589), and several notches lower is the even more exalted Big 10-2 (aka The Flagship League) at 33-32, or just .508.

They tout this at the same time they seem, in this Shocker's opinion, to treat us like poop.

[jcdshocker]

Pep rallys are two hours before the game at the team hotel.

I am assuming the pep rally is at Ball Park Village again.

[ShockingButTrue]

If we are ranked as the 10th best conference (KenPom), what does that say about the remaining 22 ranked 11-32?

Ranking of conferences by averaging AdjO and AdjD of the teams

1	Big 12 Conference	+19.20	17	Ivy League	-2.58
2	Atlantic Coast Conference	+17.32	18	Horizon League	-3.36
3	Big East Conference	+14.85	19	Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference	-3.36
4	Big Ten Conference	+13.74	20	Conference USA	-3.83
5	Southeastern Conference	+12.27	21	Western Athletic Conference	-4.45
6	Pac 12 Conference	+9.78	22	Ohio Valley Conference	-4.76
7	American Athletic Conference	+6.50	23	Patriot League	-5.11
8	Atlantic 10 Conference	+4.55	24	America East Conference	-6.03
9	Mountain West Conference	+3.02	25	Atlantic Sun Conference	-6.58
10	Missouri Valley Conference	+2.13	26	Big Sky Conference	-7.98
11	West Coast Conference	+1.13	27	Southland Conference	-8.46
12	Colonial Athletic Association	+0.71	28	Big South Conference	-8.62
13	Southern Conference	-0.30	29	Big West Conference	-9.28
14	Mid American Conference	-0.38	30	Northeast Conference	-10.52
15	Sun Belt Conference	-1.18	31	Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference	-17.34
16	Summit League	-2.24	32	Southwestern Athletic Conference	-17.81

I guess that means the Valley is above average.

[wusphlash]

If we are ranked as the 10th best conference (KenPom), what does that say about the remaining 22 ranked 11-32?

Ranking of conferences by averaging AdjO and AdjD of the teams

1	Big 12 Conference	+19.20	17	Ivy League	-2.58
2	Atlantic Coast Conference	+17.32	18	Horizon League	-3.36
3	Big East Conference	+14.85	19	Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference	-3.36
4	Big Ten Conference	+13.74	20	Conference USA	-3.83
5	Southeastern Conference	+12.27	21	Western Athletic Conference	-4.45
6	Pac 12 Conference	+9.78	22	Ohio Valley Conference	-4.76
7	American Athletic Conference	+6.50	23	Patriot League	-5.11
8	Atlantic 10 Conference	+4.55	24	America East Conference	-6.03
9	Mountain West Conference	+3.02	25	Atlantic Sun Conference	-6.58
10	Missouri Valley Conference	+2.13	26	Big Sky Conference	-7.98
11	West Coast Conference	+1.13	27	Southland Conference	-8.46
12	Colonial Athletic Association	+0.71	28	Big South Conference	-8.62
13	Southern Conference	-0.30	29	Big West Conference	-9.28
14	Mid American Conference	-0.38	30	Northeast Conference	-10.52
15	Sun Belt Conference	-1.18	31	Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference	-17.34
16	Summit League	-2.24	32	Southwestern Athletic Conference	-17.81

Interesting that Steve Forbes' team finished in a tie for first in the 13th ranked league. He would be a plus for the MVC.

[shockmonster]

Interesting that Steve Forbes' team finished in a tie for first in the 13th ranked league. He would be a plus for the MVC.

Maybe he'd like to have a buy game next year.

[ShockdaWorld]

I am assuming the pep rally is at Ball Park Village again.

I've been told it is at the team hotel this year instead. I've also been told the team hotel is a ways out of the way, but really have no idea.