Other Valley Conference Games Thread 2016-2017

[Cdizzle]

I was looking at some stats today. And lets just say that if Shamet plays 4 full seasons at WSU, he is going to put up some monster numbers.

[1972Shocker]

Jeremy Morgan may or may not play for UNI against Bradley. Looks like it will be a game time decision.

The article indicates that Morgan initially tweaked his ankle against Loyola last Wednesday and them turned it pretty good agaisnt the Shocks.

[WuDrWu]

I was looking at some stats today. And lets just say that if Shamet plays 4 full seasons at WSU, he is going to put up some monster numbers.

I think I said it before last season started, but I do not expect Landry to play 4 seasons at WSU. I believe he'll be drafted before then.

[WuDrWu]

Jeremy Morgan may or may not play for UNI against Bradley. Looks like it will be a game time decision.

The article indicates that Morgan initially tweaked his ankle against Loyola last Wednesday and them turned it pretty good agaisnt the Shocks.

There's no doubt he turned it bad when he landed on Markis' foot. He's tough as nails, if it's possible, he'll play.

[Kel Varnsen]

I think I said it before last season started, but I do not expect Landry to play 4 seasons at WSU. I believe he'll be drafted before then.

He's not as strong as Baker or Murry, but he's more athletic than either and is a better shooter than Baker. So, yeah.

[moshock]

I thought that Shamet looked more like POY over Morgan.

I realize that Morgan turned his ankle....he had 3 points when that happened.

[ShockTalk]

He's not as strong as Baker or Murry, but he's more athletic than either and is a better shooter than Baker. So, yeah.

That's quite a statement about being better than Baker. Not saying he won't be, but it's a little early for that, IMHO.

Landry is chewing up lesser teams, particularly the last 5 games. However, he's numbers against the best competition of Tulsa, Louisville, Michigan St, CSU, OU, and OSU are: 11-49 FG, 5-27 3pt, and 35 points for a 5.8 ppg.

Baker, who missed 21 games his freshman season did the following in the NCAA against Pitt, Gonzaga, Ohio St., and Louisville: 8-24 FG, 7-18 3pt, 42 points for 10.5 ppg. His best 2 games were against #1 seeds Gonzaga and Louisville. I could have added the CU loss in the Valley finals, but it wouldn't have hurt the numbers and LaSalle would have increased them.

Baker's season numbers for FG% and 3pt% during his 1st two complete seasons are very comparable to Shamet's current %s. Ron's %s went down his senior year primarily because he was the main focus of our opponents.

This season: LS: .439 FG% and .388 3pt%

RB: .456 FG% and .386 3pt% sophomore year and .456 FG% and .383 3 pt% his junior year.

May not be fair to Landry to use Ron's sophomore and junior years, but it also wouldn't be fair to Ron to use his freshman numbers either due to missing 21 gams.

[wufan]

That's quite a statement about being better than Baker. Not saying he won't be, but it's a little early for that, IMHO.

Landry is chewing up lesser teams, particularly the last 5 games. However, he's numbers against the best competition of Tulsa, Louisville, Michigan St, CSU, OU, and OSU are: 11-49 FG, 5-27 3pt, and 35 points for a 5.8 ppg.

Baker, who missed 21 games his freshman season did the following in the NCAA against Pitt, Gonzaga, Ohio St., and Louisville: 8-24 FG, 7-18 3pt, 42 points for 10.5 ppg. His best 2 games were against #1 seeds Gonzaga and Louisville. I could have added the CU loss in the Valley finals, but it wouldn't have hurt the numbers and LaSalle would have increased them.

Baker's season numbers for FG% and 3pt% during his 1st two complete seasons are very comparable to Shamet's current %s. Ron's %s went down his senior year primarily because he was the main focus of our opponents.

This season: LS: .439 FG% and .388 3pt%

RB: .456 FG% and .386 3pt% sophomore year and .456 FG% and .383 3 pt% his junior year.

May not be fair to Landry to use Ron's sophomore and junior years, but it also wouldn't be fair to Ron to use his freshman numbers either due to missing 21 gams.

I'm nitpicking here, but you exclude LSU (expected RPI around 125) where Shamet scored 12 and included Tulsa and OU (expected RPI ~ 150) where he combined for 8 points on 0-10 from three. It shifts his scoring average to 7.8 if you include LSU and exclude the OK schools.

[ShockTalk]

I'm nitpicking here, but you exclude LSU (expected RPI around 125) where Shamet scored 12 and included Tulsa and OU (expected RPI ~ 150) where he combined for 8 points on 0-10 from three. It shifts his scoring average to 7.8 if you include LSU and exclude the OK schools.

You're not nitpicking. Hindsight, I should have left Tulsa off, although, if there is only 25 RPI spots difference between Tulsa and LSU they'd be pretty much in the same class with LSU getting some of that projected difference from their better conference. As far as OU, they're a much better team with Woodard. They very likely could have won at least 2 of the last 4 games with a healthy Woodard. That alone would have them close to a top 100 team.

[WheatShock]

Drake up 10 early on ISUb. SIU has an early lead on ISUr.

[WheatShock]

At the half.

MSU 22 EU 16
ISUr 29 SIU 33
DU 42 ISUb 33

[Eric]

Geezuz ISUb!

[another shocker]

drake is not the worst team in the league.

[WuShock16]

How the eff does Indiana State have all the competitive games that they do against quality teams and then get their butts beat at Des Moines?

[Eric]

drake is not the worst team in the league.

UNI may be.