Ty Taylor is transferring

[Aargh]

I think TT may be the best player to trfr out under Marshall. He had an impossible task early in the season because there wasn't an experienced backup PG on the team. It's not Taylor's fault that he sucked early in his Fr year. Any Fr PG who didn't would likely be NBA after a year or 2.

I'm seeing posts about Reaves being a pass-first PG. Reaves averaged 38 in 32-minute games. He put up 70+ in a game. He had an 8-minute quarter where he put up 33. Those stats don't indicate a pass-first PG. Watch the highlights. Reaves was also the tallest player on the court. There is mothing that indicates Reaves has been anything other than the guy responsible for putting points on the scoreboard - against smaller players who did not have D1 (or NAIA) quickness.

Bowles, Holland, Henderson, Taylor. We'll never know about Bowles, but that's 4 consecutive future PG's that didn't last past their Fr year.

Baker and VanVleet both passed up going NBA to make a run at a NC this year. Passing up being a second-round pick isn't hard. Neither was likely to get a guaranteed contract. Unfortunately, after this year, they may be looking at undrafted free agent status. Both probably could have gone second round last year.

One of the underclassmen needs to get all the non-seniors together and start doing stuff with just that group. Baker and VanVleet are no longer the leaderrs. I couldn't blame them (RB and FVV) for having some attitude about the underclassmen. Baker and VanVleet sticking around another year ended up costing them a lot of $$.

[im4wsu]

What did Ty mean in his message that the team became his brothers "by the end of the season"?

[ShockerEngr]

What did Ty mean in his message that the team became his brothers "by the end of the season"?

He came in as a freshman? That sortof thing doesnt happen overnight.

[wusphlash]

What did Ty mean in his message that the team became his brothers "by the end of the season"?

Purely a guess. It's likely that the extensive bench time wore on him as the season progressed. I would suggest that the other players provided support much as a family would when a member goes through a low point in their life.

[SHOCKvalue]

The PG revolving door has been disappointing. Thought TT2 looked pretty rough on the court, but he was a freshman. Potential was definitely there though.

Overall disappointing development, but good luck to him. He'll probably find a nice fit somewhere else, and end up a productive player.

[choida]

Humphreys advisor is an idiot... Coulda woulda shoulda ..damn shame

[choida]

I'm more excited about our front court, Shaq, Willis, Hamilton & Nurger

[wufan]

I'm more excited about our front court, Shaq, Willis, Hamilton & Nurger

But not Kelly?

[shockmonster]

Humphreys advisor is an idiot... Coulda woulda shoulda ..damn shame

Maybe this is a dumb question but I'm not following who Humphries is.

[shoxrox89]

He shouldve just red shirted when he was asked to. Now he just basically wasted a whole year of eligibility.

[WSUwatcher]

I think TT may be the best player to trfr out under Marshall. He had an impossible task early in the season because there wasn't an experienced backup PG on the team. It's not Taylor's fault that he sucked early in his Fr year. Any Fr PG who didn't would likely be NBA after a year or 2.

I'm seeing posts about Reaves being a pass-first PG. Reaves averaged 38 in 32-minute games. He put up 70+ in a game. He had an 8-minute quarter where he put up 33. Those stats don't indicate a pass-first PG. Watch the highlights. Reaves was also the tallest player on the court. There is mothing that indicates Reaves has been anything other than the guy responsible for putting points on the scoreboard - against smaller players who did not have D1 (or NAIA) quickness.

Bowles, Holland, Henderson, Taylor. We'll never know about Bowles, but that's 4 consecutive future PG's that didn't last past their Fr year.

Baker and VanVleet both passed up going NBA to make a run at a NC this year. Passing up being a second-round pick isn't hard. Neither was likely to get a guaranteed contract. Unfortunately, after this year, they may be looking at undrafted free agent status. Both probably could have gone second round last year.

One of the underclassmen needs to get all the non-seniors together and start doing stuff with just that group. Baker and VanVleet are no longer the leaderrs. I couldn't blame them (RB and FVV) for having some attitude about the underclassmen. Baker and VanVleet sticking around another year ended up costing them a lot of $$.

Not one of your better efforts, Aargh.

As one of the posters about Reaves, I described him as a "one-time" pass-first PG -- "one-time" as in, he used to be but isn't any more, now that he's grown several inches and is the tallest guy on the team. (At least that's the description from the guy who knows more about Reaves than all of us put together, and I have no reason to doubt him.) So, no, his current stats aren't going to show pass-first skills. We'll see what happens once he gets here.

And as for Fred and Ron losing a lot of money by staying -- although it's off topic for Taylor -- please explain how missing out on a non-guaranteed contract (which you acknowledge is likely the best either could have hoped for in last year's draft) is such a disaster. It's the same contract they'd be signing as second round picks or as undrafted free agents this year, so where's the big loss? In fact, if they aren't going to be first rounders, they may actually be better off as free agents, because it would enable them to pick their most favorable mutually agreeable landing spots, which isn't necessarily the case with being drafted. Meanwhile, they did get their chance to grab for the brass ring, little realizing at the time they had to make their decisions that Fred's injury would make it far harder to achieve their shared goal.

[proshox]

Not one of your better efforts, Aargh.

As one of the posters about Reaves, I described him as a "one-time" pass-first PG -- "one-time" as in, he used to be but isn't any more, now that he's grown several inches and is the tallest guy on the team. (At least that's the description from the guy who knows more about Reaves than all of us put together, and I have no reason to doubt him.) So, no, his current stats aren't going to show pass-first skills. We'll see what happens once he gets here.

And as for Fred and Ron losing a lot of money by staying -- although it's off topic for Taylor -- please explain how missing out on a non-guaranteed contract (which you acknowledge is likely the best either could have hoped for in last year's draft) is such a disaster. It's the same contract they'd be signing as second round picks or as undrafted free agents this year, so where's the big loss? In fact, if they aren't going to be first rounders, they may actually be better off as free agents, because it would enable them to pick their most favorable mutually agreeable landing spots, which isn't necessarily the case with being drafted. Meanwhile, they did get their chance to grab for the brass ring, little realizing at the time they had to make their decisions that Fred's injury would make it far harder to achieve their shared goal.

Well played. Correct on all fronts.

[Aargh]

As one of the posters about Reaves, I described him as a "one-time" pass-first PG -- "one-time" as in, he used to be but isn't any more

What makes you think he was "at one time" a pass-first PG? The fact that he used to be smaller?

now that he's grown several inches and is the tallest guy on the team. (At least that's the description from the guy who knows more about Reaves than all of us put together, and I have no reason to doubt him.)

The guy who knew more about Tyrone Taylor than all of us put together swore that Taylor was the best PG to come out of Kansas City in the last 20 years. Fans tend to support local players.

So, no, his current stats aren't going to show pass-first skills. We'll see what happens once he gets here.

We'll see how well he can adapt to playing an entirely different type of game than he's played against an entirely different type of defense than he's faced. Baker made it past that hurdle. It can be done. Baker's HS stats weren't jaw-dropping. He played on a team that shared scoring responsibilities. Reaves did not.

And as for Fred and Ron losing a lot of money by staying -- although it's off topic for Taylor -- please explain how missing out on a non-guaranteed contract (which you acknowledge is likely the best either could have hoped for in last year's draft) is such a disaster. It's the same contract they'd be signing as second round picks or as undrafted free agents this year, so where's the big loss? In fact, if they aren't going to be first rounders, they may actually be better off as free agents, because it would enable them to pick their most favorable mutually agreeable landing spots, which isn't necessarily the case with being drafted. Meanwhile, they did get their chance to grab for the brass ring, little realizing at the time they had to make their decisions that Fred's injury would make it far harder to achieve their shared goal.

I struggle to believe you can be this obtuse. Either of them probably could have earned $500K - $900K last year. That's money they can never see. They did not improve their draft status this year. In fact, their draft status probably dropped this year. Not only did they lose last year's payday, they are probably set up for lower paydays than if they had declared last year.

[wufan]

What makes you think he was "at one time" a pass-first PG?

I believe his junior year stats were 9 points and 8 assists per game.

[Hurley]

Reaves is a pass first PG because that's what his coach says. His coach said he had to score for his team to win because nobody else could. But at heart Reaves is a PG.