Can someone tell me why ?

[OTR Shockfan]

First off, it doesn't really matter now ,but at the time it could have.

Why was the forehead face palm foul not a F-1? Intentional contact above the shoulder with no apparent play on the ball ?

Thanks ,and I'll hang up and listen now. lol

[WstateU]

It appeared that the defender had his hands straight up, therefore not initiating contact; you could say Fred initiated contact and put his face into the defenders elbow. At least that’s how I saw it.
Disclaimer: I'm not 'well versed' in the rules of basketball.

[RussDaBus]

I believe he is talking about when Baker was fouled by Baldwin in the second half when he basically took his hand and placed it on Ron's forehead.

[WstateU]

I believe he is talking about when Baker was fouled by Baldwin in the second half when he basically took his hand and placed it on Ron's forehead.

I think the defender was checking out Ron's hair to see if he uses a conditioner... no harm, no F-1 foul. :)

[OTR Shockfan]

I believe he is talking about when Baker was fouled by Baldwin in the second half when he basically took his hand and placed it on Ron's forehead.

This ,,, the Fred foul I was cool with

[1972Shocker]

I suspect the reason was because the contact was not in any way excessive. In fact, the contact appeared to me to be quite minor. Now if he had poked Ron in the eye, for example. I think a flagrant foul would have been in order.

[1972Shocker]

I think the defender was checking out Ron's hair to see if he uses a conditioner... no harm, no F-1 foul. :)

So your saying it met the "cop a feel" exception to the flagrant foul rules.

[engrshock]

The guy guarding Baker did not have his hands straight up. He was reaching out and face guarding Baker (which you are not supposed to be able to do) and then he just put his palm on Bakers forehead. He did not slap him or hit him he just moved his hand a little forward and it was on Bakers forehead. I do not think it was worthy of a Flagrant foul but it was very weird.

[LoneStar48]

I suspect the reason was because the contact was not in any excessive. In fact, the contact appeared to me to be quite minor. Now if he had poked Ron in the eye, for example. I think a flagrant foul would have been in order.

But what if he gave Baker a "wet Willy"?

[ShockdaWorld]

The guy guarding Baker did not have his hands straight up. He was reaching out and face guarding Baker (which you are not supposed to be able to do) and then he just put his palm on Bakers forehead. He did not slap him or hit him he just moved his hand a little forward and it was on Bakers forehead. I do not think it was worthy of a Flagrant foul but it was very weird.

Weird is a good way to put it. There wasn't any malicious intent or anything, it was almost like he just wanted to touch a basketball god or something. It looked like videos where you see people reaching out and just touching the pope as he walks by. He was hoping some of Ron's greatness would be transmitted through osmosis.

[WstateU]

But what if he gave Baker a "wet Willy"?

Let’s hope we give some “wet Willy’s” tonight…

[wusphlash]

I believe he was having a Spock moment and using the Vulcan mind meld defense. "LIVE LONG AND ADVANCE".

[Shocker Mama]

From one of the E'ville games.image.jpg

[shoxilla]

testing Ron to see if he could be a worthy candidate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N64y6yjdZ68

[RoyalShock]

The guy guarding Baker did not have his hands straight up. He was reaching out and face guarding Baker (which you are not supposed to be able to do) and then he just put his palm on Bakers forehead. He did not slap him or hit him he just moved his hand a little forward and it was on Bakers forehead. I do not think it was worthy of a Flagrant foul but it was very weird.

I was thinking defenders aren't even allowed to put a hand close to the eyes, but I've never seen that called, and I'm not sure what it would be without contact (a technical, perhaps?).