Selection Sunday Thread

[Stickboy46]

So am I correct in this thinking? We were the 2nd to last team in, which means if SMU and Louisville were eligible, we wouldn't have made it. Therefore from what I see, there would have been NO at large bids from any true mid-major conference? (not counting AAC, A10 and Big East as mid major as they aren't really mid-major in basketball).

[Heinro]

So am I correct in this thinking? We were the 2nd to last team in, which means if SMU and Louisville were eligible, we wouldn't have made it. Therefore from what I see, there would have been NO at large bids from any true mid-major conference? (not counting AAC, A10 and Big East as mid major as they aren't really mid-major in basketball).

I think this would be a correct assumption. Who knows if the committee would have changed things around a little bit in that scenario.

[ShockdaWorld]

So am I correct in this thinking? We were the 2nd to last team in, which means if SMU and Louisville were eligible, we wouldn't have made it. Therefore from what I see, there would have been NO at large bids from any true mid-major conference? (not counting AAC, A10 and Big East as mid major as they aren't really mid-major in basketball).

You are exactly correct. As even Jay Bilas (who I've always thought was a bit of a P5 honk) stated last night that the selection committee sent a clear message to the little guy that it doesn't matter if you do exactly what is asked of you, if you don't get the auto bid, forget about it. After looking at the brackets, I do feel lucky that we got in, but that is only based on the ineptitude of the committee, not on the "superior" mediocre P5 times that they slotted ahead of us.

[wusphlash]

Well, the die is cast and we need to make the most of our situation.

Here's to a better seed next year.

Game over, huh?

Game is not over at all. Our position this year has been determined and we need to make the most of it.

Hopefully next year we don't face the obstacles of 2015/2016, perform better and we get a better seed.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

As much as I'm angry at the committee, anyone acting like this year is lost is dumb. WSU is still playing, on neutral sites, and can make the Sweet 16 without needing to beat a single team ranked ahead of them in KenPom. I'm as nerdy of a numbers guy as anyone, but now it is what it is, and it is time to play some basketball.

KenPom
WSU - 12
Vandy - 27
Arizona - 16
Miami - 13

[ShockerFever]

I want mids to get in over shitty P5s more than anybody. But I can understand the Monmouth exclusion. They did everything right yes... except for avoiding bad losses. And they weren't just bad. They were horrible. You can't lose to 3 200+ RPI teams and expect to be handed a bid. If they don't drop those turds, they're probably in as a 9 or 10 seed.

Vanderbilt, Syracuse, and Tulsa are the fraud selections. Id take Valpo, SDSU, and even Monmouth over those NIT quality teams.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

I would argue Temple and Tulsa are 2 of the worst selections in the history of the tournament.

[WUpigsooie]

The most annoying thing about this comity is this gap in logic. RPI is used as a gauge for "good wins" , meaning they think RPI is a valid indicator of what constitutes a good team, then a teams own RPI is completely ignored. Syracuse 72, Vandy 63, Tulsa 58, Temple 60, Michigan 56 all in over St. Bonnie's 30, St. Mary's 38, SDSU 41.

So 5 teams get in based on their wins against quality teams, while not counting as quality wins for their opponents. This ludicrous logic.

[Stickboy46]

Sounds like Illinois State is declining all Post Season offers (probably CBI, or CIT). So doesn't look there will be any postseason for the MVC outside of WSU and UNI.

[ShockerFever]

Sounds like Illinois State is declining all Post Season offers (probably CBI, or CIT). So doesn't look there will be any postseason for the MVC outside of WSU and UNI.

Saving themselves a one and done in a crap tournament. Smart.

[ShockTalk]

You are exactly correct. As even Jay Bilas (who I've always thought was a bit of a P5 honk) stated last night that the selection committee sent a clear message to the little guy that it doesn't matter if you do exactly what is asked of you, if you don't get the auto bid, forget about it. After looking at the brackets, I do feel lucky that we got in, but that is only based on the ineptitude of the committee, not on the "superior" mediocre P5 times that they slotted ahead of us.

Despite the Bonnies not getting in (who scheduled OOC weak and had no important OOC wins), the A-10 may have the right idea and did get 3 bids. If we cannot get in the AAC/MWC/BE, maybe the central and western state schools need to form a new conference that makes certain requirements regarding spending and scheduling. In other words, if not serious, don't apply. Could 10-14 schools be combined that would get 3-5 bids at the Dance? It might have football or not. Right now, even the MWC got hurt.

The direction things are going, if you cannot compete in football at the highest level, big pay checks will be rare. If you're not in the P-5/BE/AAC (with P-5 want-to-bes)/A-10, you are being left in the dust in basketball. If a couple of teams from the AAC do get picked up by the P-5, those other schools will be in the same boat. This is the direction big money is headed. Saving all the conferences/schools being adversely affected may be impossible. Saving 10-14 of those schools may not be.

[WstateU]

So 5 teams get in based on their wins against quality teams, while not counting as quality wins for their opponents. This ludicrous logic.

That’s what happens when the chair of the committee is a P-5 guy. Unfortunately, the separation between the “haves and have-nots” continues to increase. After the dust settled yesterday, I’m thankful we made it in. Hopefully, the team is up to the monumental task before them; the optimist in me says we are.

[shoxlax]

Next year's OU game should be fun

[Cdizzle]

WSU has 5 at-large berths in the last 11 years. Out of the Valley.

Sometimes the team may not play as great as we have seen them play at other times, but big-picture, it's a hell of a time to be a WSU fan.

[pie n eye]

Here are the six seeds followed by their KenPom ranking..
Notre Dame (39)
Seton Hall (26)
Texas (30)
Arizona (16)

Here are the 3 seeds followed by their KP rank...
Utah (29)
Texas A&M (17)
West Virginia (6)
Miami (13)