Misery State @ WSU Game Thread

[SHOCKvalue]

Ha! I said the same thing last night. It felt like an exhibition game.

Told my wife that it was like a Harlem Globetrotters "game."

[molly jabali]

One thing that Gregg said in his post game Mike/Dave talk was that he thought MSU had a good skill set(paraphrasing that)...I'm not sure what he meant by that....not once did I feel there was anyone besides Church who could play for WSU, but obviously I trust his assessment WAAAAY more than mine.

[newshock1234]

How the hell did Church land with bears? Dude is gonna be a beast. Of course I'm sure he transfer before his junior year

[Husker4Shockers]

On a negative side, it was slightly disappointing to see the crowd disperse at the very late hour of 7:45 in Ron and Fred's second to last game in Koch Arena.

I know it was a blowout, but I dunno. I'm just kinda over the spoiledness.

Noticed it on TV too. Ours has always been a "leave early" crowd but that was ridiculous. I remember when I used to attend the crowd was filing out early even when games were still in doubt one way or the other! Just so they could sit in traffic for 20 minutes and listen to the end on the radio?

[newshock1234]

Students refused to show up again. Student/GA section was maybe 70% full

[Husker4Shockers]

I don't listen to a single word he says. Complete jackass

Me neither, so I missed most of when I THOUGHT he said. Didn't he pick Ill State to win either the Valley or the tournament?

[WuDrWu]

Not to put words in Gregg's mouth, but I think he was intimating that MSU has several talented and skilled offensive players. They can score.

They are, however, a horrific defensive squad. And they are young. Outside of Boone, they are weak. That's often closely associated with youthfulness.

One comment on Tyler McCullough. I wish he was graduating. He's a *****. He's always been a *****. He comes in and fouls hard. He cheap-shotted Rashard last night. He's done it before.

If I didn't know better, and I am NOT suggesting this is the case, but the casual observer might think he was being sent in for a purpose.

[1972Shocker]

I don't get leaving early. These are the last few minutes you will see these guys play in person. Cherish every second.

I never leave early but I, for one, enjoy watching the guys who don't get to play much. Quite frankly the folks who leave early are generally the ones that tend to just sit on their hands and don't make much noise anyway so it really doesn't impact the atmosphere that much.

It's not a crime to leave early, but it wouldn't hurt my feelings if they brought back the WuShock anti-leaving-early videos. I kind of wonder if some of those who leave early (a good number of which are some of the higher dollar supporters) may have complained about the light being shined on them with those videos.

I am very lucky (through my employer) to have access to very good seats for most games. There are some in that area that you can set your watch to when they leave early.

[molly jabali]

Horrific is a perfect word for their defense...EXCEPT I thought they shadowed Connor pretty effectively for someone who is not playing 20 or more minutes ....

[SHOCKvalue]

The people that leave early, or don't show up, for the next home game need to be ineligible to renew season tickets. Plenty of willing buyers waiting in the wings to replace those who don't care enough about the program to see these particular seniors off for their last CKA appearance.

[1972Shocker]

Just want to throw this out there:

Misery is not a state.

I have to respectfully disagree. Misery is the state of the Bears basketball program.

[Dan]

Horrific is a perfect word for their defense...EXCEPT I thought they shadowed Connor pretty effectively for someone who is not playing 20 or more minutes ....

Conner had a decent game against them in Springfield. I guess that was Lusk's attempt at a defensive plan "if we could just shut down Frankamp, we might have a chance".

[ShockerEngineer]

On the plus side, it sure is simple for me to leave by the time I get to my car, when a bunch of people shuffle out early :P

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

No team since 2002 (earliest data) ranked 17th or above on KenPoms rating has been left out of the tourney. Two 18 ranked teams have been left out. WSU currently sitting at 14. Could get some cushion room by doing better offensively.

2006 South Carolina is one of the teams you are seeing. They finished 18th in KenPom AFTER winning the NIT. They were 36 on selection sunday.
2010 Dayton did the same thing. They finished 18th AFTER winning the NIT. They were 37th on selection sunday.

The highest ranking team in KenPom to ever be left out was #22. It was 2002 South Carolina, who at 18-14 (8-11 in the SEC) went to the NIT. They had a ton of close losses, and a ton of blowout wins (thus the fairly high KenPom rank), but the committee apparently said 18-14 wasn't good enough. They made it to the NIT Finals and made a decent case that they really were a good team, just really unlucky in close games.

Expanding to the KenPom top 30, as of selection sunday, only about 3-4 teams have ever been left out. You really have to get into the 30-40 range of his ranks before you start to find many teams in the NIT.

The Shockers are safely in whether they finish with 7 or 8 losses total. Only if they reach 9 will I be concerned.

[pinstripers]

I never leave early but I, for one, enjoy watching the guys who don't get to play much. Quite frankly the folks who leave early are generally the ones that tend to just sit on their hands and don't make much noise anyway so it really doesn't impact the atmosphere that much.

I don't ever see many gray-haired folks leaving early.