Shockers v Aggies Game Thread

[_kai_]

Y'all can quit bagging on RN, the side eye that he received from Gregg as he left the court after missing that lay up was enough to burn his soul for 3 life times.

[Topshock]

3) I wasn't expecting a lot out of Frankamp this year, but I was expecting more than I've seen from him. He passes up a lot of open 3's, which is his main calling card. He's doing OK on D and getting boards for a 6' guard. It seems that the main thing he does with the ball is maybe dribble a time or two and then pass it to someone else to set something up. Not surprising his TO count is so low. I haven't seen him make moves to try to break down a D. He tends to wait until someone comes open on the perimeter and then makes an easy (and safe) pass to them.

This is a ridiculous comment. Conner has brought more than I expected this year and will just get better and better I believe. While struggling some with his shot, his floor game has been better that I expected. He makes great inlet passes, handles the ball well, and while he needs to be more aggressive like he started to show tonight are we really going to complain that a player has not enough turnovers?? I thought tonight was his best game so far as evidenced by his +/- of +29 tonight.

[molly jabali]

I had to be a dad and have a microcosm of Shockernet talk with my teenage daughter after the UNI game. Completely spoiled (as many of us are) from 43 straight wins at home, a zero point game where he missed an open shot to tie at the buzzer was seemingly all she could take.

"He's here to make shots, not miss them and get DUIs" was one of many comments following the UNI debacle. Ouch.

Her and I had to have a little sit down. We discussed the pressure of the moment, the lifetime of effort and dedication it takes to even GET to the point where you can take the shot. How these kids are just that...kids.

We then discussed her shortcomings, mistakes, moments of poor judgement and how those things don't get printed and shared for the entire city, state and country to discuss and how they are discussed without the benefit of knowing the person.


Are you a good kid?

I think I am.

Have you made mistakes?

Yeah, everyone does.

Do those mistakes make you a bad person?

I don't think so.

Do we all deserve a chance to redeem ourselves and be forgiven?

Yes sir.

Well then, we agree on that. But with mistakes come consequences. No NMSU game for you.

Sometimes I hate being a dad.


I thought Conner was one of many Shockers that were really good last night. You see why they want more. Ron and Fred want more. They know what he's capable of and they are trying to get it out of him. @Aargh: made a great point about turnovers. Yes, he's been insanely careful with the rock and so far has only 3 turnovers. THREE. Only little Bush and Shamet have fewer. Think about that for a minute. BUT he needs to push things more, take some chances and test boundaries. He's got the talent, it's time to unleash the beast.

He's a quiet and serious kid at times. I wish he'd smile and enjoy the moment more often. I don't think I've seen him smile once. I've heard he's happy to be here and I believe him. His demeanor wasn't any different at Lawrence. Young man, there will all too rapidly come a time when you will wish people payed attention and cared....just like WSU fans, enjoy the moment.


I'll comment on the game more later. These guys played their tails off last night. They did Saturday as well. 41 points, 53 points....the next "fan" that questions the effort of this team is going to my boot directly up their internet ass. It's ridiculous. I've never seen a team bust ass every time down the court like these guys. Even Nurger, who gave up a year of his career for the team, not for him, but for the team, and is struggling mightily to be successful, is out there busting his hump trying to out work the other guy.

Might be my favorite post of all time...every part of it.

[Stickboy46]

This is a ridiculous comment. Conner has brought more than I expected this year and will just get better and better I believe. While struggling some with his shot, his floor game has been better that I expected. He makes great inlet passes, handles the ball well, and while he needs to be more aggressive like he started to show tonight are we really going to complain that a player has not enough turnovers?? I thought tonight was his best game so far as evidenced by his +/- of +29 tonight.

Conner's stat line for the year
333 Min, 125 pts, 28 reb, 20 ast, 9 steals ... THREE TURNOVERS ... oh and 1 block ha.

How many many teams would love to have a player that averages 15 points, 2.4 asst, 3.3 reb, and only .36 TOs per 40 minutes of game time ....

and an 83% FT Shooter.

[ShockCrazy]

Also regarding Conner, the last time coach was so emphatic about seeing much more from someone in practice than in game with regards to shooting/offense was Joe Ragland's junior year... So I'm not worried.

[Play Angry]

While I enjoyed his three at the end of the half very much, my favorite CF play on offense was his driving layup in the 2nd half. It was not a wide open lane to the basket and was probably a "medium" in terms of difficulty. Those are the kind of plays we have not been finishing well during the recent pause in our ascendancy.

I thought his two steals and his overall defense were well above average last night as well. It was a nice game for him.

Switching gears, IMO Anton is finally developing into the reliable 8-10 ppg, 5 rpg post player we hoped for at the start of the season. It took 4-6 weeks longer to get there than we might have expected, for obvious reasons, but his spacing in the offense is finally looking good and his FG% is on a rocket's trajectory as a result. I think he will have a nice finish to the year if he can just keep those arms straight up on D rather than letting them lean in like a weeping willow. And although his defense has been frustrating, his footwork on box outs is light years ahead of our other bigs. Shaq would do well to watch some tape of Anton rebounding for tips on how to properly throw around his ample caboose in the paint.

[_kai_]

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[wusphlash]

Anton approaching our pre-season expectations would go a long way in helping achieve our end-of-year goals. Last night was a start.

[WuDrWu]

Breast fed babies.

His confusion is understandable, he was bottle fed.

[Play Angry]

Anton approaching our pre-season expectations would go a long way in helping achieve our end-of-year goals. Last night was a start.

Last night was definitely his best defensive showing in about a month. His offense has been quietly impressive for a few weeks though - over his last five games, Anton is 16 for 23 from the field (73.9%) while averaging 7.8 ppg and 5 rpg in just 14 minutes per contest. That is ridiculously efficient.

He just needs to find a way to stretch that 14 minutes up to 20 by staying out of foul trouble. If that happens, we are really in business.

[WuDrWu]

Anton approaching our pre-season expectations would go a long way in helping achieve our end-of-year goals. Last night was a start.

No doubt. Perhaps Anton is getting over his anxiousness regarding contact that he, completely understandably, has been dealing with since returning from that scare.

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

Y'all can quit bagging on RN, the side eye that he received from Gregg as he left the court after missing that lay up was enough to burn his soul for 3 life times.

He's a weak link, who took it upon himself to redshirt and get better. We had no choice but to lift. Its like people dont even follow the team and understand whats going on.

[Stickboy46]

While I enjoyed his three at the end of the half very much, my favorite CF play on offense was his driving layup in the 2nd half. It was not a wide open lane to the basket and was probably a "medium" in terms of difficulty. Those are the kind of plays we have not been finishing well during the recent pause in our ascendancy.

I thought his two steals and his overall defense were well above average last night as well. It was a nice game for him.

Switching gears, IMO Anton is finally developing into the reliable 8-10 ppg, 5 rpg post player we hoped for at the start of the season. It took 4-6 weeks longer to get there than we might have expected, for obvious reasons, but his spacing in the offense is finally looking good and his FG% is on a rocket's trajectory as a result. I think he will have a nice finish to the year if he can just keep those arms straight up on D rather than letting them lean in like a weeping willow. And although his defense has been frustrating, his footwork on box outs is light years ahead of our other bigs. Shaq would do well to watch some tape of Anton rebounding for tips on how to properly throw around his ample caboose in the paint.

I really enjoyed some of the possessions when he brought the ball up the court. I remember one where he did a little step back crossover (that almost was an over and back), then did a little half spin at the top of the key and ended up kicking it out to someone for a wide open shot or drive (can't remember)

[_kai_]

I had to be a dad and have a microcosm of Shockernet talk with my teenage daughter after the UNI game. Completely spoiled (as many of us are) from 43 straight wins at home, a zero point game where he missed an open shot to tie at the buzzer was seemingly all she could take.

"He's here to make shots, not miss them and get DUIs" was one of many comments following the UNI debacle. Ouch.

Her and I had to have a little sit down. We discussed the pressure of the moment, the lifetime of effort and dedication it takes to even GET to the point where you can take the shot. How these kids are just that...kids.

We then discussed her shortcomings, mistakes, moments of poor judgement and how those things don't get printed and shared for the entire city, state and country to discuss and how they are discussed without the benefit of knowing the person.


Are you a good kid?

I think I am.

Have you made mistakes?

Yeah, everyone does.

Do those mistakes make you a bad person?

I don't think so.

Do we all deserve a chance to redeem ourselves and be forgiven?

Yes sir.

Well then, we agree on that. But with mistakes come consequences. No NMSU game for you.

Sometimes I hate being a dad.


I thought Conner was one of many Shockers that were really good last night. You see why they want more. Ron and Fred want more. They know what he's capable of and they are trying to get it out of him. @Aargh made a great point about turnovers. Yes, he's been insanely careful with the rock and so far has only 3 turnovers. THREE. Only little Bush and Shamet have fewer. Think about that for a minute. BUT he needs to push things more, take some chances and test boundaries. He's got the talent, it's time to unleash the beast.

He's a quiet and serious kid at times. I wish he'd smile and enjoy the moment more often. I don't think I've seen him smile once. I've heard he's happy to be here and I believe him. His demeanor wasn't any different at Lawrence. Young man, there will all too rapidly come a time when you will wish people payed attention and cared....just like WSU fans, enjoy the moment.


I'll comment on the game more later. These guys played their tails off last night. They did Saturday as well. 41 points, 53 points....the next "fan" that questions the effort of this team is going to my boot directly up their internet ass. It's ridiculous. I've never seen a team bust ass every time down the court like these guys. Even Nurger, who gave up a year of his career for the team, not for him, but for the team, and is struggling mightily to be successful, is out there busting his hump trying to out work the other guy.

I need you to teach more life lessons, Doc. That way I get to use her ticket again.

[proshox]

5. I can see why Hamilton doesn't get in sooner. He gets the ball and immediately goes to the hole, no matter how many guys are in his way. He went up last night against 2 guys that were way bigger than him and it went as expected. He got blocked. Thankfully TT saved it then made a 3 off it. The kid just oozes potential, but he's got to understand how to play good team offense.

I missed those shots, but he is making a good percentage in limited minutes so I doubt that is the issue.