Series Renewal With Creighton

[Cdizzle]

Schedule strength and entertainment value would be through the roof if these games were usually on the table.

It's been discussed at length, over and over again, but I'll never be able to understand why stuff like this isn't very common.

1. Teams don't like to play road games. They are hard to win, and hard to make money off of.

2. Teams don't like to play road games in crazy environments no one has won in for 3 years.

3. Teams don't like to lose said subsequent home return game. Especially not to lowly WSU.

[Kung Wu]

http://www.kansas.com/sports/college...e47826475.html

I would go for a HOME/KC/HOME set up.

I'd rather reserve a Sprint Arena game for a marquee opponent.

[Dave Stalwart]

I'd rather reserve a Sprint Arena game for a marquee opponent.

Right now I'd rather play a cream puff like Creighton so we can get our confidence back :)

A sprint center game for us is probably going to be most likely as a Creighton or Mizzou game though. A marquee opponent would be fun but those two games would sell tickets better than anything else.

[SHOCKvalue]

A series renewal would be fun, as much as we all despise Creighton, but a KC game wouldn't make much sense. CU is a small school with alumni scattered all about (little "alumni density", if you will, anywhere), and while WSU is bigger the majority of our alumni are right here in Wichita.

[_kai_]

A 1-1-1 against a 150 RPI team in which playing them is going to be their Super Bowl to end all Super Bowls. I would rather do a 2-1 against Omaha if we need a close road trip. If Creighton wants to put together a couple good years and show they deserve a 1-1-1 then I'm all for it.

And for the record, I'm not just slamming Creighton to slam Creighton. I don't think St. Louis deserved a home-and-home either. Might as well have put UMKC on the schedule.

I don't agree with the Jayhawk Mantra.

Play them, beat the snot out of them, and let's do it again year after year.

[Cdizzle]

I don't agree with the Jayhawk Mantra.

Play them, beat the snot out of them, and let's do it again year after year.

That's great, except KU doesn't have trouble scheduling good teams in the non-conference, gets chances against good teams in conference, and generally doesn't have to worry about being on the bubble. That isn't true for WSU. We have a limited number of opportunities to schedule good games. Removing one of those opportunities by playing Creighton is a risk.

[_kai_]

That's great, except KU doesn't have trouble scheduling good teams in the non-conference, gets chances against good teams in conference, and generally doesn't have to worry about being on the bubble. That isn't true for WSU. We have a limited number of opportunities to schedule good games. Removing one of those opportunities by playing Creighton is a risk.

Meh.

I'll go through the list of teams I'd replace on our schedule this year and last that I'd rather have played Creighton.

15-16
Hawaii Pacific
Charleston Southern
Emporia State
Alabama
Iowa
Saint Louis

14-15
Memphis
Newman
Detroit
Alabama
Loyola Marymount
Hawaii

If we had one or two games where we're looking to replace a team better than a top 150 RPI team that's one thing. Look at those teams the last two years. You're telling me we don't have the room to add Creighton?

[Shock Top]

So KU likes scheduling games in big markets, huh? How about a true "neutral court" series!!

Every year it changes: MSG, Staples, MGM Grand, United Center, etc.

They get ther precious big market game, and WSU piggybacks off it!!

Not a completely series idea, but I'd like to see Self's response to such a proposal

[ShockerFever]

A lot of apples and oranges in your post kai. You mixed in exhibition games, in-season tournament games, BB return games, etc that really aren't comparable.

And Memphis, seriously?

You tried to beef up your argument with a lot of fluff.

[_kai_]

A lot of apples and oranges in your post kai. You mixed in exhibition games, in-season tournament games, BB return games, etc that really aren't comparable.

And Memphis, seriously?

You tried to beef up your argument with a lot of fluff.

Yes. Memphis. If we're talking about Creighton hurting our RPI, then why does Memphis on the schedule work?

And it's not fluff, I was making a point that if we have a schedule that doesn't allow Creighton on it because we need higher RPI opportunities, then we need to get rid of the other RPI dumps too. It's not like we're playing Top 25 teams every non con opportunity.

[Cdizzle]

Meh.

I'll go through the list of teams I'd replace on our schedule this year and last that I'd rather have played Creighton.

15-16
Hawaii Pacific Exhibition Game
Charleston Southern Guarantee Game - have to have home games and make money some how.
Emporia State Great
Alabama Exempt Tourney
Iowa Exempt Tourney
Saint Louis Basically the same as playing Creighton, but with no unnecessary neutral game, and oh, they were actually in the Top 25 during this contract.

14-15
Memphis Disagree entirely, but to each their own
Newman Great
Detroit BB Return Game
Alabama I guess? Though if I'm picking bottom half teams, I probably still go with the name BCS school
Loyola Marymount Exempt tourney
Hawaii Exempt Tourney

If we had one or two games where we're looking to replace a team better than a top 150 RPI team that's one thing. Look at those teams the last two years. You're telling me we don't have the room to add Creighton?

The reality is that you're replacing teams like Utah, Seton Hall, Nevada, St. Louis, Alabama or Memphis from the schedule. Now, I can see an argument for some of those, but including exempt tourneys and exhibition games is pretty weak.

[Shock Top]

The reality is that you're replacing teams like Utah, Seton Hall, Nevada, St. Louis, Alabama or Memphis from the schedule. Now, I can see an argument for some of those, but including exempt tourneys and exhibition games is pretty weak.

Why are Newman and ESU "great"? As an exhibition game, sure. Not as a real game.

Or is replacing them "great"? That would make more sense!

[pie n eye]

I'd like to see the series start again. It just makes sense.

[Cdizzle]

Or is replacing them "great"? That would make more sense!

There you go. I'm all for removing these D2 games from the regular season schedule if we can get a team like Creighton instead. I get why they do it, as it actually ends up better than having another RPI 307 team.

[Mr. Obvious]

Too funny. Both fan bases "hell no they suck". Both AD's "hell yes". Must have been a rivalry.