Bandwagon!

[TxShox]

I'm not worried one ounce about the future of this program. Rough patches will come, but with the young men that are currently on the roster and in the pipeline, I see no reason to think the best times are behind us, for the best lies ahead.

[BostonWu]

Goodness, it is four losses in a season with 35 (or whatever) games, in games lacking (either literally or effectively) an All-American, a top 40 transfer, a top 100 freshman, and what some consider to be the best fifth year senior in the county. They will all likely be back playing at various times this season, some this weekend, but all certainly by March. Anybody getting off the wagon now needs to go back to playing canasta or posting on pinterest or quilting or whatever some such nonsense.

You don't know that. I really hope you're correct but not sure how you can state that as fact or even a likely event.

[SHOCKvalue]

You don't know that. I really hope you're correct but not sure how you can state that as fact or even a likely event.

I did say "likely", did I not? I'm not an expert on Grady's condition, but the reports range so drastically on his return to the point that saying he could "likely" be back in 3-4 months is not an irresponsible comment. My sincere apologies on my positive outlook. I will try to be more dour in the future, as to not elicit bright red 16 point font.

If you're taking me to task on FVV, CF, and to some degree LS, then I officially have no idea what you're getting at.

Anyways, calm the eff down and find a different side of the bed to get out of in the mornings.

[ShockdaWorld]

^^^^ What he said.

[pinstripers]

Hopefully might be a better choice.

[Heinro]

I understand we want the bandwagoners for revenue, but from my personal perspective, thank goodness. From a fan perspective, or at least mine, it was much better to be a fan back when we were losing in Portland or winning in Salt Lake when it was only the ones who truly cared. I don't have KU/WSU semi-fans telling me not to root for Stanford, etc. I'd look at that as one of the positives if we enter the tournament with a 10 or 11 seed, just our core group of fans again. As I have stated, this is purely my personal viewpoint, I realize the bandwagoners help us bring in $, which is more important.

[ShockBand]

Bandwagoners are what they are, don't worry about them. Wolves don't worry about the opinions of sheep, and those of us who are the always loyal, diehard, true black and gold Shocker fans are the wolves.

If you think about it, this is the first really rough patch since BEFORE the Final Four. Wow. We were due for a rough spot, but I'm not worried, plenty more glory awaits, and right soon.

[Husker4Shockers]

Every upward graph has plateaus. We're on a platueau now but we'll be back on the upward trend soon!!

[WillieJeffJeffries]

So what exactly is a Bandwagoner????

So, what exactly is a Bandwagoner?.....I grew up in Wichita, I remember dying in '76 when Cal Bruton, Cheese, Bob Elmore and the boys blew a late lead to Michigan in Rd 1 of the NCAA and then watching Michigan roll to the final game vs Indiana and thinking WSU should be there. I have great memories of watching AC and Cliff in the early 80's and bringing my college buddies from OSU to Levitt in '87 so they could see the WSU experience in person as we destroyed Hersey Hawkins and Bradley. No, I didn't attend WSU but it's always been WSU fan first even when they've played OSU. I've been a season ticket holder since '99 yet I get goofballs like ShockerFever calling me out as a "Bandie". Well if because I didn't go to WSU makes me a BW fan so be it.... and, Heinro, why would you call us out and almost make fun of us for donating $$ to the Shocks???? almost makes me want to reevaluate my commitment to WSU.

[ShockerFever]

Heinro, why would you call us out and almost make fun of us for donating $$ to the Shocks???? almost makes me want to reevaluate my commitment to WSU.

And this, among other things, is why your fanhood is questioned a lot. You would seriously consider "reevaluating" your commitment to WSU based on some random internet ramblings?

Point made.

[DUShock]

It is an internet board, and nice, decent people troll. Why they do this I do not know. But I do know that we are not as deep as I thought and our sophomores are not where I hoped they would be. Perhaps I have unrealistic expectations but I am with the program through thick and thin. For crying out loud I kept my basketball tickets when I deployed, taking a pay cut from my civilian job, and was not able to attend! I would huddle in the commo hooch after a 4 day job out in the ****, to listen to Mike Kennedy's play-by-play hearing Jamar and crew play their hearts out against the SIU juggernaut (& others). I do not consider myself or any of my family bandwagon fans but I do appreciate their presence because it means the program is doing well. The glass is half full and as I said in another thread, at least the parking lot will be easier to navigate after games for a while but I am eager for the return of packed houses. Hopefully I will be surprised when UNLV comes to town on the 9th.

Go Shocks!

In Orbe Terrum Non Visi

[Mr. Obvious]

I just ignore him anymore WillieJeffJeffrries. He's a DB. I'm like you, grew up in Wichita, a WSU fan who loves ball. I follow multiple teams but over the last few years I've been branded Creighton, KU fan over and over. Doesnt bother me. Its just a few posters that have child like tendencies who say those things. Hang in there!

[shocka khan]

The future is still bright...really like Shamet McDuffie Hamilton Frankamp Allen two Juco transfers...the sophomore class is mind blastingly hard to figure out...and Taylor is well as you keep excusing for just a freshman...Keyser could be anything...Someone correct me if im wrong, but the past few recruiting classes have kinda been misses, not counting this new one...didnt matter cuz we had Cle Fred Ron Tekele Evan and Carter to cover it up...

I really hope Allen is good, but how can you even say that you 'really like' Allen when he hasn't stepped on the floor yet.

We know what we're getting with Frankamp. He was top 40. Career city league scoring leader.

Allen comes from a strong program in Springfield and is highly thought of, but he doesn't have the cachet that a Frankamp does.

I think Allen will be a really good player for us, but until I see him on the floor, I'm going to reserve judgment. Remember Shaq was MVP at the Whataburger All-Star Classic (Oklahoma vs. Texas basketball game) and that has translated to exactly zip so far. Yes, he was good at the end of the year last year, but I think we're seeing the 'Three faces of Shaq' (kind of like the 'Three faces of Eve') this year.

[BostonWu]

I did say "likely", did I not? I'm not an expert on Grady's condition, but the reports range so drastically on his return to the point that saying he could "likely" be back in 3-4 months is not an irresponsible comment. My sincere apologies on my positive outlook. I will try to be more dour in the future, as to not elicit bright red 16 point font.

If you're taking me to task on FVV, CF, and to some degree LS, then I officially have no idea what you're getting at.

Anyways, calm the eff down and find a different side of the bed to get out of in the mornings.

And I did say I really hope you are right. Believe me I'd love to be dead wrong on this one.

But to requote your statement "...but all certainly (will return) by March."

We have a different viewpoint on this statement. Strictly from a roster standpoint I'm hoping for the best but preparing for the worst with Grady and my senses tell me coach has the same mindset. Not calling you out (sorry could have toned down font - my bad!) we just have very different viewpoints on this matter.

[shockerfanmas]

I just ignore him anymore WillieJeffJeffrries. He's a DB. I'm like you, grew up in Wichita, a WSU fan who loves ball. I follow multiple teams but over the last few years I've been branded Creighton, KU fan over and over. Doesnt bother me. Its just a few posters that have child like tendencies who say those things. Hang in there!

I'm with ya, I support multiple teams as well. Shox are my favorite, but I also root for K-State, South Carolina, Maryland, North Carolina, and Kansas (but only because of Perry). I've been called a traitor for rooting for other teams as well. I likes who I likes, ya know. WSU is my #1 through and through though