Wichita State vs Tulsa GAME THREAD

[forevershockerfan]

And now this is turning into the GW game from last year. Panicking and settling for dumbass perimeter shots.

I'd say our chances of victory are down around 25%.

This game did indeed remind me of the GW loss. Tulsa played solid, got calls, and we got outrebounded and beat. Back to the drawing board. It's early. We need FVV healthy moving forward. I will be glad when Frankamp can play. I want all of our players getting ready to rumble and together and we will be fine. We have work to do and tonight pointed some of that our for sure.

[Shoxfan11]

Shamet-5 fouls in 11 minutes; Shaq-4 fouls in 11 minutes

I will argue for Shamet's case and say that two of his fouls (the "charge" he got called on when driving and the call that he fouled out on) were terrible calls. He had some nice steals and I think he was getting better the more he played out there. Can't say anything about Shaq, he did not have a good game.

[shockerfanmas]

Sheesh, calm down everyone.

We looked bad. Some players performed terrible. Not the first time in the past few years this has happened.

This game was basically a push from the get-go. Most of the stats and lines said as much. Losing this game is not a shock; if it is then you weren't following along.

We won't free fall in the polls. If it is more than 5 spots I'd be really surprised. Several top 25 teams have already lost, in similarly unimpressive fashions. Pollsters can see this Tulsa squad was a great team last year, and possibly a top 25 group this year, and it was a road game.

We're 9 now, I'd say 14-15 at worst. Then again the polls are worthless as far as I'm concerned

[KSUUWSU]

Sheesh, calm down everyone.

We looked bad. Some players performed terrible. Not the first time in the past few years this has happened.

This game was basically a push from the get-go. Most of the stats and lines said as much. Losing this game is not a shock; if it is then you weren't following along.

We won't free fall in the polls. If it is more than 5 spots I'd be really surprised. Several top 25 teams have already lost, in similarly unimpressive fashions. Pollsters can see this Tulsa squad was a great team last year, and possibly a top 25 group this year, and it was a road game.

Only difference...we are not a "Blue Blood" or NCAA Royalty amongst the pollsters. We drop plenty. But on a brighter side, we play better as the under dog with something to prove.

[Aargh]

the pressure of an undefeated season got eliminated pretty quick.

The Fr-So team looked awesome against Charleston Southern. They looked like Charleston Southern against Tulsa.

If Marshall has a weakness, it's offense against a zone. I've never seen the Shox show anything effective against a zone, and we've got some 3-shooters on the team before Frankamp becomes eligible.

[mjbaker84]

guessing we drop to 16-18

[1972Shocker]

Tulsa was the better and deeper team tonight. Fred not being 100% certainly hurt. Our youngsters weren't quite ready to play in that kind of road environment against a very good, very athletic and very experienced Tulsa team. We will get better but we were exposed a little bit tonight.

[SHOCKvalue]

We're 9 now, I'd say 14-15 at worst. Then again the polls are worthless as far as I'm concerned

No, they're not. The polls are free national exposure.

[ShockerPrez]

3 wins in Orlando and this game will be a distant memory.

[SHOCKvalue]

Only difference...we are not a "Blue Blood" or NCAA Royalty amongst the pollsters. We drop plenty. But on a brighter side, we play better as the under dog with something to prove.

Since 2013, I think our drops in the polls after loses have shown some respect for our program. They haven't been that bad.

[Capitol Shock II]

It's almost as interesting to see how our somewhat spoiled fan base reacts to this loss as much as our young players. I was worried about this game because it was one that I thought might be over looked. I thought Tulsa looked pretty good. Not a fan of their coach or their players but they were more determined, aggressive, athletic and didn't waste opportunities. They earned it tonight. This might inspire our young players to aspire to be tougher.

[shockerfanmas]

I will argue for Shamet's case and say that two of his fouls (the "charge" he got called on when driving and the call that he fouled out on) were terrible calls. He had some nice steals and I think he was getting better the more he played out there. Can't say anything about Shaq, he did not have a good game.

The call he fouled out on was a good call unfortunately. On replay it showed he clearly hacked the crap out of the rebounder. The charge, if I remember right was when he tried to go 1 on 2. That was an easy call. Most of his fouls were dumb fouls. If anybody has a beef, it's Shaq

[pinstripers]

We could not press with Fred in the game and we couldn't execute when he was not in the game.

[wuhog]

I don't want to see Fred play until next Thursday!!!

[pie n eye]

Congratulations to Tulsa. They played really well tonight.

Grady, Baker, Shamet (got a terrible whistle) had the best performances. FVV played well too given he's obviously not 100% healthy.

Rashard, Evan, Shaq had their moments both ways.

Hamilton didn't play enough to make too much of an impact.

The rest of the guys didn't have their best game tonight.

We really could've used Frankamp.

Refs sucked, not surprised.