Is WSU now a $3 million job or is it a $3 million job only for Gregg Marshall?

[ShockerPrez]

Gregg is a 3m coach.
WSU simply has the ability to pay market value for the product they want.

[ShoxRoxMySox]

I almost tweeted this yesterday after seeing reports of $3M+.

I think, adjusted for nerdy inflation(whoever said that), we may have just seen the highest paid coach at WSU for the next two decades. I meant it as a way to say how impressive and valuable Marshall's tenure has been so far, it would take a lot to get a new coach to garner that much respect and put-your-money-where-your-mouth is from WSU. I'll say this though, sure is badass that we can do it when called for!

[Dave Stalwart]

Or 3000G... or is it 3KG?

HC3G3.3M

HCGMversion3.3

It's sort of like a Windows update

[Shock Top]

Let's just say, by the time Gregg is done here, to hire almost anyone that want.

[Rlh04d]

It shows that the ceiling for the program of Wichita State basketball is above 3 million. A new coach's salary would be based on his value at the time and if he deserved our ceiling then I'm sure WSU would swing it.

This. Marshall's salary shows that the salary WSU can offer a coach is above what they offered Marshall, and their willingness is at least what they offered Marshall.

WSU's ceiling is important, not anything else. If Marshall left WSU wouldn't be a $3+ million job ... until it needed to be again.

[Slalomshocker]

If Marshall left WSU wouldn't be a $3+ million job ... until it needed to be again.

Exactly that. WSU is proving it can be a $3mil job...for the right coach. Gregg is the right coach, with the right success.

[Mr. Obvious]

Fantastic donors! Need a new league for that TV money.

[Kung Wu]

Since I am officially HC3GM's favorite Shockernetter, I feel obligated to speak on behalf of us all and advise him:

Coach, screw Gonzaga. They are NOT the model we wish to follow any longer. Let's be the next ... LOUISVILLE!

[Rlh04d]

Since I am officially HC3GM's favorite Shockernetter, I feel obligated to speak on behalf of us all and advise him:

Coach, screw Gonzaga. They are NOT the model we wish to follow any longer. Let's be the next ... LOUISVILLE!

I think at this point it might be hard to draw any correlations to another program, except in retrospect years down the line. What WSU has just done is a fundamental rewrite of the college basketball laws. From an economic perspective, I don't believe there is any comparison. Wichita State is paying several times over schools making $25mil+ in TV revenue.

WSU is now an anamoly in college athletics. In the future, other programs will be trying to be the next WSU, not Gonzaga, if we get a few years to continue building.

What WSU is doing right now isn't supposed to be possible in college athletics. The school has shattered the economic glass ceiling that puts the big boys at the next level.

Coach, screw everyone and be the guy and the program that rewrote the status quo. We don't need a model to follow anymore.

[wufan]

I think at this point it might be hard to draw any correlations to another program, except in retrospect years down the line. What WSU has just done is a fundamental rewrite of the college basketball laws. From an economic perspective, I don't believe there is any comparison. Wichita State is paying several times over schools making $25mil+ in TV revenue.

WSU is now an anamoly in college athletics. In the future, other programs will be trying to be the next WSU, not Gonzaga, if we get a few years to continue building.

What WSU is doing right now isn't supposed to be possible in college athletics. The school has shattered the economic glass ceiling that puts the big boys at the next level.

Amazing!

[ShockTalk]

I think at this point it might be hard to draw any correlations to another program, except in retrospect years down the line. What WSU has just done is a fundamental rewrite of the college basketball laws. From an economic perspective, I don't believe there is any comparison. Wichita State is paying several times over schools making $25mil+ in TV revenue.

WSU is now an anamoly in college athletics. In the future, other programs will be trying to be the next WSU, not Gonzaga, if we get a few years to continue building.

What WSU is doing right now isn't supposed to be possible in college athletics. The school has shattered the economic glass ceiling that puts the big boys at the next level.

Coach, screw everyone and be the guy and the program that rewrote the status quo. We don't need a model to follow anymore.

While I believe this is indeed a great happening for us, particularly giving stability to the program and future recruits, it may not be so good for other schools, both P5 and others.

Not that I give two hoots about P5 schools, this will add pressure to "big boy" schools to pony-up and not be out done by lil' ole WSU (or so their current coaches will scream). More importantly, non-P5 schools will see a growing gap between them and P5 along with others like WSU. The gap between SDSU's Steve Fisher and Xavier's Chris Mack is $2 mil compared to HCGM's new deal. Will conferences like the Big East, AAC, and MWC continue to see a growing gap within their own conference between coaches salaries and will the gap of quality of competition follow? To compete with the P5 conferences, will the top non-P5 conferences make "adjustments" to their conference team lineup to try and complete with P5 conferences "strength of schedule"? The P5 have already built that huge gap in football to where anybody not in a P5 conference is irrelevant. Can other conferences afford to just sit by and let the same thing happen in basketball?

WSU has indeed shattered the ceiling.

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

While I believe this is indeed a great happening for us, particularly giving stability to the program and future recruits, it may not be so good for other schools, both P5 and others.

Not that I give two hoots about P5 schools, this will add pressure to "big boy" schools to pony-up and not be out done by lil' ole WSU (or so their current coaches will scream). More importantly, non-P5 schools will see a growing gap between them and P5 along with others like WSU. The gap between SDSU's Steve Fisher and Xavier's Chris Mack is $2 mil compared to HCGM's new deal. Will conferences like the Big East, AAC, and MWC continue to see a growing gap within their own conference between coaches salaries and will the gap of quality of competition follow? To compete with the P5 conferences, will the top non-P5 conferences make "adjustments" to their conference team lineup to try and complete with P5 conferences "strength of schedule"? The P5 have already built that huge gap in football to where anybody not in a P5 conference is irrelevant. Can other conferences afford to just sit by and let the same thing happen in basketball?

WSU has indeed shattered the ceiling.

I do agree with most of what you say, but I have a feeling that WSU is kind of an outlier right now. For the P5 to feel pressure to pony-up across the board, it will take more than just WSU to start paying their coaches top 10 or top 20 salaries. Outside of a select few schools in the BE or AAC, I don't see many non-P5 schools being able to do that.

With that said, I completely agree that the gap between P5/Memphis/WSU/other high major non-P5 programs and other non-P5 programs will continue to intensify. I think a split in Div I basketball, similar to football's FBS/FCS, is coming very soon, and while I think we end up on the good end of that split, I'm still worried about the long-term ramifications of it. How relevant is the MAC even though they're FBS? It's troubling.

[ShockTalk]

I do agree with most of what you say, but I have a feeling that WSU is kind of an outlier right now. For the P5 to feel pressure to pony-up across the board, it will take more than just WSU to start paying their coaches top 10 or top 20 salaries. Outside of a select few schools in the BE or AAC, I don't see many non-P5 schools being able to do that.

Most probably thought WSU couldn't do that either. That's what had so many on this board in a panic. Alabama's "crazy" money vs WSU's "limits" was considered so wide, how could HCGM stay true to his past statements? There are probably a few others out that can pony up more as well. The others will drop to the side.

With that said, I completely agree that the gap between P5/Memphis/WSU/other high major non-P5 programs and other non-P5 programs will continue to intensify. I think a split in Div I basketball, similar to football's FBS/FCS, is coming very soon, and while I think we end up on the good end of that split, I'm still worried about the long-term ramifications of it. How relevant is the MAC even though they're FBS? It's troubling.

Football and basketball are two very different animals. It takes many, many more quality athletes to build a solid team in football and that pool of players will probably be shrinking.