Official WSU vs. SIU thread

[WuDrWu]

The PA announcer must pleasure himself with the sound of his own voice

Even SIU fans have had enough:


Re: Wichita State @ SIU

Postby rockin' dawg » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:46 pm
30 points down and Falot is still yelling "here's a chance for a THREE....POINT...PLAY!!!!" Jeez....put a sock in it already.


Re: Wichita State @ SIU

Postby lewmarsaluki » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:48 pm

rockin' dawg wrote:30 points down and Falot is still yelling "here's a chance for a THREE....POINT...PLAY!!!!" Jeez....put a sock in it already.


He's "Michael Baiamonte" (Miami Heat PA announcer guy) bad now. It's unbearable.

[WuDrWu]

My favorite post from their board:


Re: Wichita State @ SIU

Postby AirDawg86 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:06 pm
75 - 55 Schuks leading with about 5:00 left and Marshall is putting the starters back in because the 3rd stringers can only hold the lead against our starters. Starting to really like this guy.
Does he have a twin brother coaching somewhere?

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

When they talked about this I wondered why they didn't mention that we "only" lose Cotton (you know Cotton, right, probably the best defender in the history of the Valley? Just him!)

It isn't until Fall 2016 that I'll break out the worry. Although Shaq continues to break those fears.

Cotton and Carter

Bruce's summary of the rest of the league was very "rose colored glasses" in nature. I'll be happy if the MVC is anything more than the tiniest bit improved overall next year. The middle of the league may be improved a bit, but I don't see anyone besides the Shox who will even be threatening for an at large bid.

[Bluzrover]

For those that missed it...

https://vine.co/v/OxnYIhvV7vW

Clearly a block call on the little girl

But she bounced right back up like FVV bouncing off of ShaqWall and looked like she was ready to go. Sign her up 3G!

[ShockerExpress]

No doubt she was set. The Saluki was out of control. Reward the defense.

[asiseeit]

Saluki board discussing Marshall putting starters back in late. "I love his killer instinct". A fanbase that gets it!

I absolutely disagree with putting the starters back in - especially FVV. Why risk tweaking the ankle which he
quickly did by driving to the basket? Subs need to learn how to respond to a little adversity rather than
being rescued. Lost that opportunity. Game was NOT in doubt. No reason to risk injury to ANY of the
starters in meaningless minutes.

[Play Angry]

As @wusphlash pointed out, it is real tough for the third string to come in and be effective without at least one or two starters in the mix (or even the 6th or 7th man, i.e. Shaq). That's been the case for even the best teams in WSU history.

I think the 2nd half wholesale/platoon approach might be tweaked in the coming games and early in St. Louis. The bench forwards are only going to improve so much when JRS is running the show or Corey is chucking bombs, and the bench perimeter players likewise aren't going to move forward a ton when their only post options are B-Wam and Rauno.

Mix in a FVV, Ron, Tekele, Darius or Shaq and suddenly those guys can play a little more naturally.

[1972Shocker]

I absolutely disagree with putting the starters back in - especially FVV. Why risk tweaking the ankle which he
quickly did by driving to the basket? Subs need to learn how to respond to a little adversity rather than
being rescued. Lost that opportunity. Game was NOT in doubt. No reason to risk injury to ANY of the
starters in meaningless minutes.

I agreed with putting the starters back in. The game was down to 6 possessions with 5:30 remaining in the game. The reserves were playing horribly and more important they were playing selfishly. Yeah, believe it or not the way the reserves were playing the game was in doubt. Maybe not a very high probability, but not an impossibility with the way the bench was playing, but stranger things have happened.. The Shockers are not in a position where they should allow a game to be put into any doubt whatsoever at this point with the potential humongous game with UNI on the horizon. He put the starters back in to steady the boat although I am sure he would have preferred not to. Perhaps he should have left Fred out of the mix although Fred did not seem to be bothered by the ankle to any significant degree.

[Dave Stalwart]

I also think that if you have shown a consistent method of benching players for mistakes, it shows a good message to continue that approach even with your 3rd string. Why have a different set of rules that apply to the bottom of the roster? I wonder if a move like this is actually a way of Marshall demonstrating to these players that he knows they are capable of more because he believes in them and if they don't do it, they get benched just like Shaq or Rashard will.

[Dave Stalwart]

While I'm thinking about it. Has anyone else thought John Robert Simon is still improving nicely? I have seen flashes from him this year that tell me he might actually be a very serviceable PG at the D-1 level as a senior. I would not be surprised at all if he starts getting more playing time once Fred and Ron are gone. That's kind of a neat thing to think about.

[ShockerEngineer]

While I'm thinking about it. Has anyone else thought John Robert Simon is still improving nicely? I have seen flashes from him this year that tell me he might actually be a very serviceable PG at the D-1 level as a senior. I would not be surprised at all if he starts getting more playing time once Fred and Ron are gone. That's kind of a neat thing to think about.

Yeah. He's definitely been surprising me this year. Used to be that I would expect him to turn the ball over on every other possession.

[Stickboy46]

While I'm thinking about it. Has anyone else thought John Robert Simon is still improving nicely? I have seen flashes from him this year that tell me he might actually be a very serviceable PG at the D-1 level as a senior. I would not be surprised at all if he starts getting more playing time once Fred and Ron are gone. That's kind of a neat thing to think about.

He seems way more comfortable out there and actually has a pretty good shot and finish. Both him and Walker have been impressive.

I also love how excited the starters (especially Fred) get when the walk ons make plays. You can tell they appreciate the work they put in.

[ShockerFever]

I absolutely disagree with putting the starters back in - especially FVV. Why risk tweaking the ankle which he
quickly did by driving to the basket? Subs need to learn how to respond to a little adversity rather than
being rescued. Lost that opportunity. Game was NOT in doubt. No reason to risk injury to ANY of the
starters in meaningless minutes.

You would be changing your tune if it got down to single digits in the final minute. And that's where it was headed.

5 minutes is A LOT of time, especially when SIU reeled off about 8 straight points in 2 minutes.

[ShockerFever]

Yeah. He's definitely been surprising me this year. Used to be that I would expect him to turn the ball over on every other possession.

He still does that and dribbles wayyy too much. He does have a decent offensive skill set though which is nice to see.

I also agree with the sentiments on Walker. I'm very comfortable when he's out there and he has proven that he's a capable shooter.

[1972Shocker]

You would be changing your tune if it got down to single digits in the final minute. And that's where it was headed.

5 minutes is A LOT of time, especially when SIU reeled off about 8 straight points in 2 minutes.

SIU cut 9 points off the lead from the 7:58 mark to the 5:22 mark reducing the lead to 18 points. That is 9 points in 2.6 minutes and you had 5.4 minutes remaining in the game. Had that rate of scoring continued through the end of the game SIU would have outscored us by 18.7 points the rest of the way. The game was clearly in doubt at the 5:22 mark especially with the way the bench was playing.

Also keep in mind that the bench was only going to get more tired the longer you left them in the game. They simply do not play extended minutes in game situations very often.