WSU VERSUS INDIANA STATE PREDICTIONS AND PREGAME DISCUSSIONS

[_kai_]

I'll remind everyone again, that Vegas lines are not 100% predictive of the final point margin, but to even betting between the two sides. You can have people bet more heavily on a name, which will drop their spread to even the bets. Being a successful bettor is finding the value in the lines.

[pogo]

I'm seeing tweets that Zach Brown is out with a concussion.

Lots of people from teams all over with concussions. More awareness and more hesitation to push them back into the line ups would be my guess. Wonder if guys need to wear some kind of protective head gear during practices. This could be something someone needs to develop and market. If WSU did it they could market as "Shock Absorber" head gear "For athletes that Practice Angry".

[Cdizzle]

Again, I'd like to reiterate what our record is under Marshall when we score 70 or more.

Do you have this number?

[1972Shocker]

I remember the game pretty vividly. Sorta.

Even though the Shocks had a man advantage, the Shocks had difficulty scoring against a 2-2 zone.

Then fairly late in the game, a Shocker started bombing in field goals in the top of the key area. I cannot remember his name, but he was a star player and he was from an European country. He was about 6-9.

The player is famous for his fake pass with the ball between his legs. I cannot remember the detail.

Sasha Radunovich. I believe from Yugoslavia.

[ShockerGorilla]

Again, I'd like to reiterate what our record is under Marshall when we score 70 or more.

What is our record when we score more than 70 points & our opponent scores less than 70??

[SumShocker]

By my calculations (from the 2014-2015 Basketball Yearbook at goshockers.com), under HCGM the Shockers have 128 wins, 11 losses when the Shockers score 70 or more.

2007-2008: 4 wins, 3 losses (losses @ UNI in OT, @ Indiana State in OT, @ Northern Arizona)
2008-2009: 7 wins, 0 losses
2009-2010: 17 wins, 2 losses (@ Bradley, Nevada (NIT))
2010-2011: 22 wins, 2 losses (UConn in Hawaii, UNI)
2011-2012: 22 wins, 2 losses (Temple in OT in Puerto Rico, @ Drake in 3OT)
2012-2013: 17 wins, 1 loss (@ Creighton)
2013-2014: 25 wins, 1 loss (Kentucky)
2014-2015: 14 wins, 0 losses

To date, HCGM is 195-74 at WSU.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

I'll remind everyone again, that Vegas lines are not 100% predictive of the final point margin, but to even betting between the two sides. You can have people bet more heavily on a name, which will drop their spread to even the bets. Being a successful bettor is finding the value in the lines.

Going point.

Interestingly enough, people have been commenting that they feel the spread is too big and should be closer to 12-14 instead of 18. This would mean that people have been betting on ISUb and Vegas is trying to compensate by encouraging bets on WSU.

If WSU is truly the "name team" here that is causing everyone to bet on them, the spread should actually shrink.

Just an observation.

[DUShock]

For those of us who don't gamble or follow sports odds: What about the over/under? What does this tell us?

[WstateU]

Lots of people from teams all over with concussions. More awareness and more hesitation to push them back into the line ups would be my guess. Wonder if guys need to wear some kind of protective head gear during practices. This could be something someone needs to develop and market. If WSU did it they could market as "Shock Absorber" head gear "For athletes that Practice Angry".

Pogo is looking for a 10% equity stake in his new "Shock Absorber" ‘headwear’ venture. OK, what Shark wants to join him in protecting future noggin’s and saying goodbye to concussions?

[1979Shocker]

I'm seeing tweets that Zach Brown is out with a concussion.

Yeah, that's why he was out last game.

[WstateU]

I remember the game pretty vividly. Sorta.

Even though the Shocks had a man advantage, the Shocks had difficulty scoring against a 2-2 zone.

Then fairly late in the game, a Shocker started bombing in field goals in the top of the key area. I cannot remember his name, but he was a star player and he was from an European country. He was about 6-9.

The player is famous for his fake pass with the ball between his legs. I cannot remember the detail.

Sasha Radunovich. I believe from Yugoslavia.

Yes, and it appears he played "angry"...

[molly jabali]

What is our record when we score more than 70 points & our opponent scores less than 70??

Thank you!!! Loved it!

[jocoshock]

You are right...Papke's last year was the NCAA tourney team in 85, he was a year ahead of Sherrod, X, etc. but redshirted so ended up in their class.

I don't recall Papke redshirting. He was a freshman on the 81 team that went to the Elite 8. Did he redshirt as a sophomore or junior? He should have graduated in '84. X graduated in '85. Not saying he didn't redshirt at some point. Just don't remember when/if...

[forevershockerfan]

Sasha Radunovich. I believe from Yugoslavia.

That move worked great but Sasha would get benched by Coach Fogler for doing this so had to stop doing it. It even faked me out and I'm fearless. Tsk, tsk, tsk!!!!!!!

[pinstripers]

Saw it. Yep. Fantastic.