New recruits

[Play Angry]

More scoring is always nice, but Evan is effective enough on the offensive end right now by shooting a respectable 3FG%. Defenses haven't been able to collapse on Darius ever since the scout changed on EW, and it's allowed FVV to drive into gaps instead of brick walls at end of shot clock situations.

Evan might be asked to do more scoring next year. If he does, I am confident he can step up and score more. Right now he's doing exactly what we need within the offense though.

[shocker22]

I love Evan and what he does. But he has a lot of open looks and needs to drop them more often.

[Cdizzle]

I love Evan and what he does. But he has a lot of open looks and needs to drop them more often.

He's shooting 45% from the field and 37% from 3. His usage rate is low, sure. But to hate on his efficiency is just being unaware. No one is going to mistake him for a great offensive player. But he also is not the liability many would make him out to be.

[ShockTalk]

Can you tell me who has the highest +/- on the squad?

Umm..let me guess. EW currently (probably not the week before). He, Baker, Carter, and FVV have been bunched together at the top. Playing with the other starting 4 has its perks. Maybe Cotton shouldn't be playing as much as he's not in that top group of +/-.

Look. I'm well aware of Evan's pluses. I'm also aware that he's taken a grand total of 7 FT in 300+ minutes. I didn't even realize how low his scoring average was until I saw that Shaq was #5 in scoring on the team. I don't want Evan to "hunt" his shot, but when it's there, take it. I think he has the skills to be a reasonable scorer. If not, teams will sag off and make life tougher for the others.

[ShockTalk]

He's shooting 45% from the field and 37% from 3. His usage rate is low, sure. But to hate on his efficiency is just being unaware. No one is going to mistake him for a great offensive player. But he also is not the liability many would make him out to be.

When one doesn't take many shots, a bad night or two can drop those numbers in a hurry. I believe tonight's 1-5 FG and 1-4 3s dropped his numbers about 20-25 % points.

If Evan was shooting more and hitting those numbers, you could use them against me. However, if he was shooting more with those numbers, I wouldn't have said anything in the first place.

[im4wsu]

Game-by-Game Recap of Plus/Minus Per 40 Minute Scores
Event	Opponent	Team Margin	Kelly	Brown	Wessel	Henderson	Bush	Holland	Carter	Simon	Walker	Nurger	Wamukota	Van Vleet	Morris	Baker	Cotton	Glass
Game-01	New Mexico State	17	30.0	0.0	20.0	0.0	0.0	-10.4	12.9	0.0	0.0	14.5	7.1	23.4	13.5	29.3	10.3	0.0
Game-02	Memphis @ Sioux Falls	15	22.5	-52.9	27.8	-35.5	0.0	-3.1	14.1	0.0	0.0	55.9	-48.8	29.5	14.7	20.8	29.5	-88.9
Game-03	Newman	48	58.6	68.8	42.9	61.7	-26.0	41.6	47.6	-23.4	0.0	34.5	71.4	66.3	28.4	63.1	0.0	47.7
Game-04	Tulsa	20	7.4	100.0	23.2	100.0	0.0	17.6	27.7	0.0	0.0	18.1	56.5	21.1	0.0	16.3	18.1	0.0
Game-05	@ Utah	-1	-9.6	0.0	4.2	0.0	0.0	-29.3	-2.3	0.0	0.0	-14.0	-20.1	-1.9	24.4	0.0	6.2	0.0
Game-06	Saint Louis	29	42.0	-5.2	43.0	-21.0	-34.5	35.5	-2.6	-19.0	-34.5	65.9	6.0	45.5	26.9	41.2	39.9	-51.1
Game-07	Seton Hall	9	29.2	-165.5	-9.5	-86.1	0.0	-21.8	10.1	0.0	0.0	-50.7	0.0	26.3	18.1	22.6	11.9	0.0
Game-08	@ Detroit	9	3.6	0.0	10.1	-130.9	0.0	-23.3	20.2	0.0	0.0	10.8	0.0	8.8	-20.2	14.2	15.3	0.0
Game-09	Alabama	1	15.3	0.0	-13.6	-11.8	0.0	3.3	2.6	0.0	0.0	-16.0	-218.2	0.0	0.0	1.0	2.5	0.0
Game-10	Loyola Marymount	27	38.6	24.8	0.0	-2.8	0.0	23.8	63.8	5.9	13.7	4.9	21.6	38.6	-9.6	43.6	41.5	0.0
Game-11	Hawaii	0.9	-5.7	2.6	0.0	-67.8	0.0	12.2	7.6	114.3	0.0	36.7	-64.9	-1.9	-59.2	10.9	-8.8	0.0
Game-12	George Washington	-6	1.7	-28.8	0.0	-14.7	0.0	-10.5	1.1	0.0	0.0	-15.0	-93.9	-2.3	0.0	-2.1	-6.3	0.0
Game-13	[IMG]file:///C:\Users\Bob\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtml1\01\clip_i mage002.gif[/IMG] At Drake *	8	-1.8	21.0	0.0	2.2	0.0	-61.5	4.9	0.0	0.0	19.8	-11.9	9.7	0.0	9.8	11.4	13.9
Game-14	Illinois State *	8	-28.8	-29.3	21.6	-15.1	0.0	-32.1	4.3	0.0	0.0	0.0	-14.4	14.7	38.7	12.7	6.4	0.0
Game-15	Bradley *	20	40.2	21.1	2.7	22.3	0.0	0.0	33.9	0.0	0.0	0.0	23.3	15.3	5.7	21.1	22.4	0.0
Game-16	At Loyola *	14	-18.2	33.0	22.9	5.4	0.0	-514.3	23.5	0.0	0.0	0.0	-131.5	22.2	5.2	13.0	11.1	-514.3
Game-17	Southern Illinois *	12	-16.3	0.0	24.6	6.3	0.0	24.3	21.6	-82.1	-82.1	-9.5	-31.7	20.2	23.7	20.3	15.7	0.0
Game-18	@ Evansville *	20	4.6	4.2	24.7	0.0	0.0	-19.6	29.6	-24.0	0.0	-24.0	-23.6	38.7	19.1	24.3	29.9	-46.2

[Cdizzle]

Playing with the other starting 4 has its perks.

That goes both ways. Remember when everyone was melting down because of the performances in Hawaii? Remember how well the other starters shot in those games? Methinks there might be just a little correlation to the fact that Wessel wasn't playing during those games. But what do I know, I just have all the stats, general observation, and the opinions of his teammates and coaches on my side.

[Cdizzle]

When one doesn't take many shots, a bad night or two can drop those numbers in a hurry. I believe tonight's 1-5 FG and 1-4 3s dropped his numbers about 20-25 % points.

If Evan was shooting more and hitting those numbers, you could use them against me. However, if he was shooting more with those numbers, I wouldn't have said anything in the first place.

No. Those stats include last night's game. They each dropped about 2%. Only off by a factor of ten.

Would you rather have Evan taking those shots, or deferring to somebody like Ron Baker? I get that he can't become a liability that no one has to guard. But right now he isn't, and he's finding better shots for better shooters. There is a reason he has a life winning percentage in every sport of like 95%.

[ShockTalk]

That goes both ways. Remember when everyone was melting down because of the performances in Hawaii? Remember how well the other starters shot in those games? Methinks there might be just a little correlation to the fact that Wessel wasn't playing during those games. But what do I know, I just have all the stats, general observation, and the opinions of his teammates and coaches on my side.

You don't need to convince me of Evan's importance to this team. That's one of the reasons I wish he could be used as the first man off the bench, but some "newbies" are going to have to step-up more to allow it to happen. When Ron, Tekele, or FVV goes out to get a breather, it would be nice to have Evan in to replace their D, grit, and nose for the ball.

No. Those stats include last night's game. They each dropped about 2%. Only off by a factor of ten.

Would you rather have Evan taking those shots, or deferring to somebody like Ron Baker? I get that he can't become a liability that no one has to guard. But right now he isn't, and he's finding better shots for better shooters. There is a reason he has a life winning percentage in every sport of like 95%.

As for your first sentence, I'm not off.

Before last night: 21-47 FG .447, 11-30 3P .367

After last night: 22-52 FG .423, 12-34 3P .353. That's a 14 point drop in 3P% shooting and a 24 point drop in FG%

Evan has had 2 very solid offensive games, St. Louis and Loyola. He scored 24 points total. He's scored 36 points in his other games (not counting the Drake game where he only threw the ball in). That takes his 4 point average (again, no Drake) to 2.77. That's 4.5 points per 40 minutes. His FG% in those other 13 games is .333 and 3P is .308.

I don't want less minutes from Evan, rather, I hope he can get his offensive game going and become a reasonable threat. If I was the opposition, I'd sag off him and make him beat me. I hope they do, Evan makes them pay, and he finds his offensive game.

[pinstripers]

Wessel is not a new recruit.

[WSUwatcher]

There you go, pin, looking at the title to the thread -- silly you.

[Rlh04d]

I believe tonight's 1-5 FG and 1-4 3s dropped his numbers about 20-25 % points.

After last night: 22-52 FG .423, 12-34 3P .353. That's a 14 point drop in 3P% shooting and a 24 point drop in FG%

You're wording that poorly. Dropping 20-25 % points to get to 42% would require him shooting 62-67% before that. You're talking in decimals and calling them percentages.

Also, Fred's shooting % went up by more than a full percentage point last night as well. Good/bad shooting nights for anyone can significantly change their numbers at this point.

[ShockTalk]

You're wording that poorly. Dropping 20-25 % points to get to 42% would require him shooting 62-67% before that. You're talking in decimals and calling them percentages.

Also, Fred's shooting % went up by more than a full percentage point last night as well. Good/bad shooting nights for anyone can significantly change their numbers at this point.

Yup. Would make more sense had I just left off the "%" sign.

[Ol skool]

http://m.godanriver.com/sports/taylor-s-free-throws-give-hargrave-pg-a-last-second/article_ebd8e676-a377-11e4-bbf1-4f1bdfc1666c.html?mode=jqm

[kochHead]

http://m.godanriver.com/sports/taylo....html?mode=jqm

He got game.