Pick Em Standings Thru Jan. 14 Games

[SumShocker]

	Cumulative	This
	Total	Round
jdshock	46	10
AndShock	45	9
moshock	45	9
Aargh	44	9
Shocker85	44	9
shocks771	44	9
WuShock16	44	10
Calshockfan	43	9
dregn	43	9
dwbarcl	43	10
insaneykaney	43	10
shox1989	43	9
bigdotks	42	10
DUShock	42	8
im4wsu	42	10
Jamar Howard 4 President	42	9
RHshoxfan	42	9
SB Shock	42	10
shock-it-to-me	42	9
Shockakhan	42	10
ShockerDave	42	9
Shockeriffic	42	9
shockerofandover0943	42	9
shocks02	42	8
shocktheheart	42	9
ShoxFan45	42	10
ShoxFan7	42	9
1972Shocker	41	9
B1ShockFan	41	9
btp1029	41	10
Play Angry	41	9
Ricardo del Rio	41	9
RoyalShock	41	9
RussDaBus	41	9
Shocker-maniac	41	9
ShockerFever	41	8
ShockerMas	41	10
ShockTalk	41	9
SHOXJOCK	41	9
SumShocker	41	9
valleyclimber	41	8
Zardoz	41	8
benishock	40	10
capnkirk	40	9
COS Shocker	40	8
MadaboutWu	40	9
Shocker1976	40	9
ShockerFan87	40	10
shockerfanmas	40	10
ShockerPhi	40	8
Slalomshocker	40	9
TheDover1018	40	9
vancedave56	40	9
wufan	40	9
wushock27	40	9
newshock1234	39	10
Perezident	39	8
ShockerDropOut	39	10
SHOXMVC	39	8
ccrunner101	37	8
Downtown Shocker Brown	37	9
proshox	35	10
EliShocker	34	9
Fozzy	34	0
shocker3	33	0
Onegreatracer	30	9
shock10	26	9
molly jabali	24	8
WSU and Reds Fan	24	8
Anthroshock	22	0
shock	22	0
WINGdingBALLfling	7	0
mjbaker84	6	0
shocker22	6	0

[molly jabali]

Let me say, I've never participated in this thing before, and I love it! I took myself out of any contention by totally missing the second round of games, but playing anyway...thanks for doing this,SumShocker!!!!

[ShockerDropOut]

Let me say, I've never participated in this thing before, and I love it! I took myself out of any contention by totally missing the second round of games, but playing anyway...thanks for doing this,SumShocker!!!!

At least you have an excuse, I took myself out of contention with my picks!
Echo the thanks SumShocker!

[1972Shocker]

At least you have an excuse, I took myself out of contention with my picks!
Echo the thanks SumShocker!

Actually, you are currently in a tie for 8th place. Granted that would put you in the play-in round but you would still be playing. As long as you make the post-season tournament your still contention. Plus you are only 2 points out of 6th place which would avoid the play-in round. With 13 rounds to go you have more then enough time to move up (or down).

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Actually, you are currently in a tie for 8th place. Granted that would put you in the play-in round but you would still be playing. As long as you make the post-season tournament your still contention. Plus you are only 2 points out of 6th place which would avoid the play-in round. With 13 rounds to go you have more then enough time to move up (or down).

That is not how 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. places are calculated. You don't have a 5 way tie for first and then call then next 8 players tied for second and the next 11 players tied for 3rd. Instead, that would be a 5 way tie for first, 8 way tie for sixth, and an 11 way tie for fourteenth. If the top 10 move on, 13 would move on in my example. Under your method, about 80 people would.

[SHOXAAC]

That is not how 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. places are calculated. You don't have a 5 way tie for first and then call then next 8 players tied for second and the next 11 players tied for 3rd. Instead, that would be a 5 way tie for first, 8 way tie for sixth, and an 11 way tie for fourteenth. If the top 10 move on, 13 would move on in my example. Under your method, about 80 people would.

The way my picker is working, I like that method.

[1972Shocker]

That is not how 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. places are calculated. You don't have a 5 way tie for first and then call then next 8 players tied for second and the next 11 players tied for 3rd. Instead, that would be a 5 way tie for first, 8 way tie for sixth, and an 11 way tie for fourteenth. If the top 10 move on, 13 would move on in my example. Under your method, about 80 people would.

The method I described is how it was done in the past. Here is last year's final standings at the end of the regular season in which 29 participants made the post season.

http://shockernet.net/forum/showthread.php?17788-Final-Pick-Em-Contest-Standings&p=470577&viewfull=1#post470577

However, it is entirely possible that @SumShocker has changed the methodology this year and I missed that.

[ShockerFever]

The method I described is how it was done in the past. Here is last year's final standings at the end of the regular season in which 29 participants made the post season.

http://shockernet.net/forum/showthread.php?17788-Final-Pick-Em-Contest-Standings&p=470577&viewfull=1#post470577

However, it is entirely possible that @SumShocker has changed the methodology this year and I missed that.

No, you're spot on. That's how SumShocker has done it in the past.

What you have here is a case of an over-eager, nerotic genius (in his own mind), jumping the gun on something for no other reason than to drop another "I told you so", that got firmly spewed back into his face.

[rayc]

It appears it is the scores that are ranked, not the participants.

[1972Shocker]

It appears it is the scores that are ranked, not the participants.

That's correct. Right now 35 and above (62 participants) are among the Top 10 scores and would qualify for the post-season as of today. However, that number will no doubt diminish as the season progresses and really doesn't mean a lot this early in the season. Perhaps @SumShocker: can add a cut line once we reach the the half way point of the season. However, that cut line is constantly moving depending on how the scores are arrayed.

[1972Shocker]

Just to remove any doubt about the contest rules:

http://shockernet.net/forum/showthread.php?19289-2014-15-MVC-Pick-Em-Contest-Round-1-Dec-31-amp-Jan-1-amp-Games&p=527627&viewfull=1#post527627

The same rules apply as in prior years

To participate in the post-season contest your final score must be one of the ten best point totals accumulated, including all ties, during the regular conference season. In the past this means many more than ten get to participate in the post-season contest.

I want to add my thanks to @SumShocker:. Running the contest takes some time and effort and he does a good job.

[SumShocker]

Thanks everyone for the mentions and acknowledgements. @1972Shocker: has correctly referenced and described participation in the Arch Madness post-season contest.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Thanks for the correction on how this particular scoring is done. Very different than almost anywhere else in the sports world, but as long as we all know the rules, I guess that's all that matters.

[1972Shocker]

Thanks for the correction on how this particular scoring is done. Very different than almost anywhere else in the sports world, but as long as we all know the rules, I guess that's all that matters.

I think the way it has and is being done sustains interest in the contest to a greater degree than the traditional Top 10 and ties method used in determine team standings. The Top 3 point scorers in the regular season are still the winners of the prizes with ties broken by who advances the farthest in the Valley Tournament segment.

I don't recall if there is even a prize beyond bragging rights for winning the tournament. Maybe @PlayAngry can tell us, I think he impressively won both the regular and tournament contests last year. It did earn him the tie break for the 1st prize in the regular season contest.

The regular season means something in our contest. The post-season segment not so much.

[SumShocker]

Prizes for first, second and third place overall for the regular season contest. One single prize for the overall winner of the Arch Madness post-season contest. Four contributors have stepped forward to donate prizes so far. Need that about that many more to contribute. I would like to get about $225 in total prizes: $100 for regular season first prize, $50 for second, $25 for third, and $50 for Arch Madness contest winner. Current donations are about half way to this total. PM me if you would like to contribute toward the prizes.