Design Pictures for Koch Arena expansion and Athletics Student Center

[_kai_]

http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article4500553.html

[SHOCKvalue]

Those were out on Tuesday, day of the Koch donation big ado.

I like the student services center. Will be a very nice addition. The champions club update will also be nice, but my peasant self never see it.

The suites on the other hand make me feel like we are about to take our cherished, gracefully aging old dog to the vet in order that he be converted into a three-legged cyborg dog with a laser eye. I will soon be flamed for this take since I don't have a stream of sunshine diarrhea flowing from my rectum, with regards to this part of the project.

[_kai_]

I think it's a great thing. It doesn't get rid of the Roundhouse but still updates it for what is wanted in modern arenas. Plus I like lasers.

[ShockBand]

[Play Angry]

The suites on the other hand make me feel like we are about to take our cherished, gracefully aging old dog to the vet in order that he be converted into a three-legged cyborg dog with a laser eye. I will soon be flamed for this take since I don't have a stream of sunshine diarrhea flowing from my rectum, with regards to this part of the project.

I'm not enough of an architecture buff to have an informed opinion. What would ya change specifically?

[ArtVandalay]

I like the general idea. So long as they make good on the "promise" that it would not lower seating capacity, and could in fact raise seating capacity, I am all for it. Facilities are a huge part of recruiting and being considered a "big boy" in college sports. A big part of the national talking points about Wichita State in the recent past has been their facilities, and not just with basketball, but you hear that a lot in baseball. You have to continue to improve and the recruits are drawn to those things. The redesign of the locker rooms I think is a great example.

[wu_shizzle]

I'm not enough of an architecture buff to have an informed opinion. What would ya change specifically?

Symmetry is always nice, but in this case is likely cost prohibitive.

[SHOCKvalue]

I'm not enough of an architecture buff to have an informed opinion. What would ya change specifically?

Well to start with I'd at least make the design symmetrical (half court to half court) as it relates to the existing arena bowl/court. If you are viewing the court as it is shot during TV broadcasts, and you consider the half court line to be 12:00, then these suites as depicted in the conceptuals run from like 10:00 to 12:30. You don't have to be an architecture buff (which I am not) to understand this will look unusual, to put it lightly.

[SHOCKvalue]

I'm guessing SN must be filled with guys driving Pontiac Aztecs, Nissan Cubes or Jukes and Lincoln Navigators, who live in homes that have add-on second floors and garages converted to living space, and who find no issue wearing mismatching socks, because I can't for the life of me reconcile how I'm the only one raising the red flag on the aesthetics of these unbalanced suites (as they have been depicted). What we have now in CKA is special as far as school-owned, on-campus barns go. Do we really want to go from that to the alien bastard stepchild in that same segment?

[SHOCKvalue]

Symmetry is always nice, but in this case is likely cost prohibitive.

Symmetry is the opposite of cost prohibitive is you just pare down the scope of the project so that left matches right. What gets expensive is trying to make right match left, or try to put suites on both halves of the arena.

[_kai_]

I'm guessing SN must be filled with guys driving Pontiac Aztecs, Nissan Cubes or Jukes and Lincoln Navigators, who live in homes that have add-on second floors and garages converted to living space, and who find no issue wearing mismatching socks, because I can't for the life of me reconcile how I'm the only one raising the red flag on the aesthetics of these unbalanced suites (as they have been depicted). What we have now in CKA is special as far as school-owned, on-campus barns go. Do we really want to go from that to the alien bastard stepchild in that same segment?

It's funny how you are using such hyperbolic statements to describe the people who like the additions, yet you're the one putting the disclaimers in your posts to not get flamed because you're not "spewing sunshine colored excrements from your rectum." When I haven't seen a single person who likes the design call you or anyone who doesn't like the addition out on your opinion.

Your reality is much different than the rest of us, because I don't know what you're talking about. It's like you're having this one sided tantrum like posting when no one is on the other side arguing.

[SHOCKvalue]

As far as I can tell I'm the only one on SN who has been critical at all in reference to these suites, while at the same time I have been called out for having a negative take on these things (do you not read the forum you own?). Both surprise me greatly. Guarantee if you searched out and found a forum dedicated to the design and architecture of large public entertainment venues they would crucify these suites, as they sit in current conceptual form. They are an embarrassment, and as I am rather invested in WSU on any number of levels I'd rather not but humiliated by something associated with my alma mater.

You think KU and CU fans are a PITA now? Beating CKA with an ugly stick will only replenish their ammo box.

[wufan]

Your reality is much different than the rest of us…

As far as I can tell I'm the only one on SN who has been critical at all in reference to these suites, while at the same time I have been called out for having a negative take on these things…Both surprise me greatly.

I think you made Kai's point.

[SHOCKvalue]

I think you made Kai's point.

His point that I have not been called out for a negative take on the suites is wholly inaccurate.

And what the hell is with you following me around various threads trying to provoke me? Are you a child? Does your wife emasculate you, and SN is your outlet? What's the deal? I'd appreciate it if you could find someone else to follow around and nip at their heels.

[AZ Shocker]

Perhaps those suites are just being considered a "first phase" for adding in suites. Sure they are slightly tilted towards the SE and a bit off center...but that's because of the new building to be built on that side of the arena. Another donation 5-10 years down the road and all the suites filled up for games in that course of time...who knows....but probably another round of building even more suites down the road.