Seton Hall Game Thread

[kochHead]

Well, in fairness to ME, I was at the FSU game AND the VCU game free throw moment, so I kind of DO have a frame of reference...but I'll let your friendly jab roll by.....they were ALL loud...how's that?

BTW....music of the 60s MUCH better than today's....(old person reference!):)

It's all in good fun. In all fairness, I am sure that Iowa game was the loudest, as there are many anecdotes of occupancy ordinances being broken back then...

[WstateU]

It's all in good fun. In all fairness, I am sure that Iowa game was the loudest, as there are many anecdotes of occupancy ordinances being broken back then...

[WuShock16]

Like someone mentioned earlier, Matty B's St. Valentine's Day Massacre was indeed an exorcism after losing so many games in that manner. When that shot went in, I think I had an out-of-body experience, tugging and pounding on my mom's arm, yelling "HOLY $#!+, HOLY $#!+." She still gives me a hard time for that assault. Anyway, crowd noise is probably all very similar. Matt's shot might be the most emotional explosion I ever heard and witnessed in the Roundhouse.

There are two similar images from that season in my head right now. When we beat Providence earlier in the year, I watched the Providence squad leave the court and hoped that our students wouldn't be too rude to a Big East team that had the stones to play us in a fair home-and-home. A couple months later, I watched Creighton leave the floor. After all the heartbreaks we had been dealt from them (and others), after seeing their jackwagon students with signs in Omaha a couple weeks prior that read "Wichita State: The Official Sponsors of the NIT," and after hearing that their players were taunting our students prior to the game, pointing to our NIT banners, I had unmitigated joy watching our students give those suckers unbridled hell as they took the walk of shame out of CKA.

[wu_shizzle]

Watching on DVR, the calls are as inconsistent as they seemed live.

And the worst calls always seem to be the white haired ref.

[1972Shocker]

Sorry, from an old timer...NOTHING matches the Iowa game, noise wise...could not even think....

The FSU NIT game was the best for sustained loudness from beginning to end (and that was a double OT game IIRC). Could be equaled if we ever play in the NIT again and get an NIT working man's crowd. However, FSU and Tim Pickett(?) seemed to feed off the crowd as much as the Shockers did.

The Iowa game was great when it was loud and maybe flustered an opponent into a loss more than any other game. Especially a very important game against a quality opponent. One of the best, if not the best example of where the crowd picked up the team big time. IIRC the loudness was primarily in the 2nd half.

There was a game against SIU also where the Shocks fell behind by I think around 26 points in the 1st half. That was another instance, similar to Iowa, where the crowd picked the team up. The noise and the rally started in the 1st half and carried over into the 2nd half. I believe the Shocks came all the way back only to lose a close game. That during SIU's heyday as a defensive bully. Very loud though throughout the comeback.

[1972Shocker]

One other thing about the FSU NIT game. I don't think our section (124 or 125) ever sat down for 1 second while the clock was running. I remember being physically drained after that game. Quite an experience. That is the only game I remember never sitting down other than during timeouts and halftime and I was not in the student section.

[DwShock]

One other thing about the FSU NIT game. I don't think our section (124 or 125) ever sat down for 1 second while the clock was running. I remember being physically drained after that game. Quite an experience. That is the only game I remember never sitting down other than during timeouts and halftime and I was not in the student section.

That was the first div 1 basketball game I ever went to. Talk about a great experience.

[shocker3]

Sorry, from an old timer...NOTHING matches the Iowa game, noise wise...could not even think....

That (Iowa game)was definitely the loudest game I have ever been too. Remember that was prior to Lew Perkins reseating the arena and filing the close seats with a bunch of corporate donors. Also, I believe there were probably more than 11,000 people crammed into the round house that day. Ted Bredehoft didn't mind bending the rules a little bit to accomodate Shocker fans.

The thing that impressed me about the Seton Hall game is that it got loud even with more empty seats than normal. The actual attendance was probably around 9500 last night.

[Shoxfan11]

There was a game against SIU also where the Shocks fell behind by I think around 26 points in the 1st half. That was another instance, similar to Iowa, where the crowd picked the team up. The noise and the rally started in the 1st half and carried over into the 2nd half. I believe the Shocks came all the way back only to lose a close game. That during SIU's heyday as a defensive bully. Very loud though throughout the comeback.

@WuDrWu: brings this game up every time we talk about crowd noise, and I don't blame him. It was one of my favorite games ever in Koch, I think it was in 2004? Turgeon called a timeout while the team was just getting massacred and as he got more animated, the crowd got louder and louder. Someone hit a three before halftime, I think it was Kampman or Clark, and the place just exploded.

[ShockerFever]

We we called for 1 more foul than they were (21 to 20).

Those damn refs screwed the BIG EAST by calling more fouls on us than on Seton Hall. Damn them.

[Shocker-maniac]

I often wonder when did it all start as far as being a rabid and passionate fan base that could create a hostile and intimidating environment for the opposing teams? We're home games at the Forum like that? Or did it start with the Ralph Miller era? I guess as I get older I get more curious about the history of Shocker athletics especially before my time. WSU really has a great basketball history and tradition. Hope this makes sense because I'm typing it on my phone as I walk in an airport

[The Mad Hatter]

I often wonder when did it all start as far as being a rabid and passionate fan base that could create a hostile and intimidating environment for the opposing teams? We're home games at the Forum like that? Or did it start with the Ralph Miller era? I guess as I get older I get more curious about the history it of Shocker athletics especially before my time. WSU really has a great basketball history and tradition. Hope this makes sense because I'm typing it on my phone as I walk in an airport

I can speak from a tradition standpoint, but I think that the architecture of Koch/Levitt plays a big role. When you have an arena that funnels sound to the court and gets loud very easily, it creates a feedback loop where fans are incentivized to be even louder. In a space that eats up volume, it is harder to motivate people to get loud since it feels like your contribution isn't doing much.

[Shocker-maniac]

I can speak from a tradition standpoint, but I think that the architecture of Koch/Levitt plays a big role. When you have an arena that funnels sound to the court and gets loud very easily, it creates a feedback loop where fans are incentivized to be even louder. In a space that eats up volume, it is harder to motivate people to get loud since it feels like your contribution isn't doing much.

Yeah, I understand the acoustics of Koch. I'm talking more about the fan base response. You can go to some home venues of some very successful programs and the home environment is nothing like what it is here. Their fans are more reserved, quiet, less passion, etc.

Edit: I don't think you can compare previous eras to the current time. For example the crowds at a game in the 1950's would not act like crowds today. It was a different culture and mind set at that time. As I think through this maybe it's just kind of a silly question that really is not applicable because of the differences of the eras. I don't know. I guess I'm just ready to get home and wishing I didn't miss the game last night. And yes I did give my tickets to someone else. : )

[molly jabali]

The FSU NIT game was the best for sustained loudness from beginning to end (and that was a double OT game IIRC). Could be equaled if we ever play in the NIT again and get an NIT working man's crowd. However, FSU and Tim Pickett(?) seemed to feed off the crowd as much as the Shockers did.

The Iowa game was great when it was loud and maybe flustered an opponent into a loss more than any other game. Especially a very important game against a quality opponent. One of the best, if not the best example of where the crowd picked up the team big time. IIRC the loudness was primarily in the 2nd half.

There was a game against SIU also where the Shocks fell behind by I think around 26 points in the 1st half. That was another instance, similar to Iowa, where the crowd picked the team up. The noise and the rally started in the 1st half and carried over into the 2nd half. I believe the Shocks came all the way back only to lose a close game. That during SIU's heyday as a defensive bully. Very loud though throughout the comeback.

Ok, I'll make a disclaimer...I DO think the FSU game was loud LONGER....I think WSU was down by double digits at half, and the crowd WILLED them back.

[wufan]

Yeah, I understand the acoustics of Koch. I'm talking more about the fan base response. You can go to some home venues of some very successful programs and the home environment is nothing like what it is here. Their fans are more reserved, quiet, less passion, etc.

Edit: I don't think you can compare previous eras to the current time. For example the crowds at a game in the 1950's would not act like crowds today. It was a different culture and mind set at that time. As I think through this maybe it's just kind of a silly question that really is not applicable because of the differences of the eras. I don't know. I guess I'm just ready to get home and wishing I didn't miss the game last night. And yes I did give my tickets to someone else. : )

Yes, crowds were different 50 plus years ago, however I read an article about fans that would poor water on one half of the court (this was before you changed sides at half time) and would trip players running down the floor.

I'm pretty sure that the crowd was pretty incendiary in the 50s. I will try and find some of the historic articles.