The Annual Redshirt Thread

[Dan]

I'm surprised there hasn't been much discussion in this topic. We have an unusual situation this year since 3 of our true freshmen already spent an extra year at prep school. 3G likes to use the redshirt if possible and the only likely candidate would be Henderson. We'd be fine this year but how about next year? Do we risk Fred working himself into a first round pick? Is that realistic? Is Holland capable of playing some point this year and sharing time at point down the road?

From what we hear, Kelly, Nurger and Brown are all ready to contribute. Are there enough minutes available for these guys or do we redshirt one of them? Interested to hear some debate on this.

[pinstripers]

I still think Henderson redshirts.

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

Henderson is the only likely candidate, but do we go another season without a true backup for Fred? I'm assuming Holland will play primarily SG. On the other hand, perhaps Ron wants more time at PG since that's what he would most likely play in the NBA. Hmmm...

[Shocker-maniac]

Exactly my thought,it is a possibility that Ron will continue to get time at PG for NBA development.

[WuDrWu]

I don't think there will be any redshirts this year.

[wu_shizzle]

Yep, I think our Redshirt is at Sunrise.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/21/wichita-state-working-to-get-cory-henderson-jr-prepared-for-backup-point-guard-role/

[wufan]

I don't think there will be any redshirts this year.

I agree with WuDrWu, and although Marshall has NEVER red-shirted a JUCO, Glass could probably benefit from a year to either improve his skills on the wing, or bulk up. I still find that to be an unlikely scenario, but someone 6-7 or taller and really good isn't going to get any PT.

[WSUwatcher]

Everyone scoffs when I mention this, but if Glass can give WSU just 10-15 reasonably effective minutes a game, which he probably can, the Shocks could almost certainly fill 80 minutes at the C and PF spots without using Wamukota, whose background makes him the most undeveloped of any of their bigs.

As for Baker at PG, whatever time he gets there will NOT be because he wants it for his NBA development, or because Marshall wants to showcase him for the pros. After seven years of seeing him operate and hearing him talk, I'm confident Marshall doesn't operate that way, and I can't imagine that Baker thinks in those terms, either. He's all about the team and winning, not himself.

[Dave Stalwart]

Everyone scoffs when I mention this, but if Glass can give WSU just 10-15 reasonably effective minutes a game, which he probably can, the Shocks could almost certainly fill 80 minutes at the C and PF spots without using Wamukota, whose background makes him the most undeveloped of any of their bigs.

HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY SUGGEST A JUCO COULD REDSHIRT!? AAHHHH!!!
ARMAGEDDON!!!

[pie n eye]

Everyone scoffs when I mention this, but if Glass can give WSU just 10-15 reasonably effective minutes a game, which he probably can, the Shocks could almost certainly fill 80 minutes at the C and PF spots without using Wamukota, whose background makes him the most undeveloped of any of their bigs.

As for Baker at PG, whatever time he gets there will NOT be because he wants it for his NBA development, or because Marshall wants to showcase him for the pros. After seven years of seeing him operate and hearing him talk, I'm confident Marshall doesn't operate that way, and I can't imagine that Baker thinks in those terms, either. He's all about the team and winning, not himself.

Good point about baker.

[pinstripers]

Baker moving up in the NBA draft, and Baker being successful in the pros, is "off the charts" valuable for the program, and for recruiting.

[Capitol Shock II]

When Turgeon was coach I didn't know what a redshirt was.

[wufan]

Generally speaking, MT had 4-6 players and the rest of the roster was filled out with low ceiling role players. Marshall really does load a roster 12-13 deep and red shorts the ayers that don't understand what is required of them yet, or those for whom no PT is available.

[Steeleshocker]

I don't think Wam gets a redshirt, and that's because he has something we need this year. 7' length and athleticism in the post. Honestly, it's what we were missing against Kentucky. We don't need another post scorer. We need someone who can rebound and defend with ferocity.

[shock]

As for Baker at PG, whatever time he gets there will NOT be because he wants it for his NBA development, or because Marshall wants to showcase him for the pros. After seven years of seeing him operate and hearing him talk, I'm confident Marshall doesn't operate that way, and I can't imagine that Baker thinks in those terms, either. He's all about the team and winning, not himself.

Not true. HCGM moved Cooz to SG when he got here because that was his best shot at the pros. He had toure play more PG minutes, because that was his shot. Marshall is there not just to win at that level, but to develop his players into the best basketball players they can be and to prepare them for a future beyond WSU basketball.