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  • Originally posted by jocoshock View Post
    Soren Petro's ballot explanation. Has us at 10 for now, but says our strength of schedule won't put us any higher. In fact we will probably drop a spot or two even if we continuing winning. In his eyes are best case seeding is a 4.

    Sounds like Seth Davis logic. Don't have a problem with it... Keep winning all they way through...

    But on the bright side, there is a nice picture of Tekel on the home page...

    http://www.810whb.com/common/more.php?m=49&r=9
    Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post
    I'm not going to post the link, because at this point I don't want to do anything to help their visit count, but I found it interesting that a 2-win week against admittedly bad competition, with an average MoV of 28.5pts earned WSU a 10-spot drop in Andy Katz's power rankings.

    I wonder if he was denied an interview or something. Geezpete. He also dropped UNI 5 spots, so I suppose he's really just laying the groundwork for only having to keep 1 team in after the matchup this weekend.

    For your amusement I will include that he has the likes of Kstate, Miami, Providence, and Butler ranked ahead of the Shox.
    Originally posted by Shock Therapy View Post
    They are so used to making assumptions without watching the games or without taking our scheduling issues into account that I honestly don't think that they know how to handle us. It's funny, because most of the time their ignorance is self inflicted. If every nationally relevant sportswriter didn't insist on watching the exact same set of games every weekend, then maybe they wouldn't suck so much at their jobs.
    Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
    Well, that is interesting, to say the least. I wonder what his reasons are for the obvious monumental collapse the Shocks are undergoing. Do you think Katz is in bed with Giocoletti and got word of WSU taking it to Drake and didn't like it? Does he still do his weekly chats? Perhaps a flood of inquiries would get those questions answered.

    Does KState get a pass now for dropping turds at home to Texas Southern and at Long Beach State? Hmm, interesting.

    What I'm concluding is that Katz is just an enormous, ignorant dick.
    Originally posted by jocoshock View Post
    @SethDavisHoops: 18. Wich St 19. Georgetown 20. WVa 21. Ohio St 22. Texas 23. N.Iowa 24. Providence 25. Dayton
    Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post
    He also jumped 5-loss Indiana up to 13 this week (yes, they lost this week). So, there's that.

    Re: WSU moving up, he says "trying not to let them. Not fair beating up on bad teams"

    So, at least he doesn't have an hidden agenda, it's right out in the open. When you're saying things publicly like "trying not to let them" you probably should no longer have voting rights.

    Interesting that he is not OK with WSU's schedule, but is quite happy with an Indiana team that did not play a road game until conference season (KenPom NCSOS 319).
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    Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.

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    • Jay Bilas updates his semi-regular rankings of the top 68 teams in college basketball, headed by unbeaten Kentucky and Virginia. Assistance on this edition of the Index comes from ESPN Insider college basketball analyst John Gasaway.


      Bilas/Gasaway put WSU at 8 on his index.

      Text for non-insiders:

      "8. Wichita State ShockersHow perfect would it be if this Wichita State team turned out to be just as strong as the group Gregg Marshall had last season? It could happen, even if the Shockers don't run the table in Missouri Valley play. Which by the way they might not: Ron Baker and company visit Northern Iowa on Saturday. -- John Gasaway"

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      • Between Bilas and Katz, I think I'll trust a guy who's actually played basketball.
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        • I think Katz played soccer. (Thats for you JJ and KW)

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          • I took a look at the OOC SOS for the AP Top 20 teams and calculated their MOV in those games:

            AP Rank Team OOC SOS SOS Rank MOV
            1 Kentucky 0.59445 4 27.5
            2 Virginia 0.56401 24 22.3
            3 Gonzaga 0.56617 18 20.9
            4 Duke 0.56032 27 23.6
            5 Wisconsin 0.55947 28 21.2
            6 Arizona 0.54014 63 16.0
            7 Villanova 0.53834 45 18.4
            8 Notre Dame 0.42313 326 23.9
            9 Kansas 0.63745 2 6.8
            10 Louisville 0.51983 112 19.9
            11 Utah 0.55846 33 17.6
            12 Wichita State 0.57969 13 11.0
            13 North Carolina 0.58165 12 16.3
            14 VCU 0.64347 1 9.4
            15 Iowa State 0.49895 181 17.3
            16 Maryland 0.51654 121 13.7
            17 West Virginia 0.50019 159 18.6
            18 Northern Iowa 0.52454 91 10.6
            19 Texas 0.53518 76 17.2
            20 Baylor 0.51830 120 15.9
            "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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            • Surprised to see Gonzaga's OOC SOS that high. Lol on the Big-12's (minus kansas) OOC SOS. Lol
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              NCAA Tournament:
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              AP Poll History of Wichita St:
              Number of Times Ranked: 157
              Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
              Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
              Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

              Highest Recent AP Ranking:
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              • I'm thinking we flip-flop with us falling to #18 and UNI to #12. BUT it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Panthers cruise up all the way to #10 after that beat down today. Geez
                FINAL FOURS:
                1965, 2013

                NCAA Tournament:
                1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021

                NIT Champs - 1 (2011)

                AP Poll History of Wichita St:
                Number of Times Ranked: 157
                Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
                Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
                Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

                Highest Recent AP Ranking:
                #3 - Dec. 2017
                #2 ~ March 2014

                Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
                #2 ~ March 2014
                Finished 2013 Season #4

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                • Originally posted by AZ Shocker View Post
                  I'm thinking we flip-flop with us falling to #18 and UNI to #12. BUT it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Panthers cruise up all the way to #10 after that beat down today. Geez
                  I would bet more money that UNI moves up one spot to 17 with a home win over a similarly ranked MVC school and that WSU actually only drops to about 16. UNI fans will be super mad :)

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                  • Seth davis has the Shockers 17 this week. We lose and move up in his book. UNI at 14

                    @SethDavisHoops: 17. Wich St 18. Md 19. Okl 20. VCU 21. Gtown 22. Baylor 23. SMU 24. Stephen F. Austin 25. Murray State
                    @SethDavisHoops: 1. UK 2. Wisc 3. Duke 4. Va 5. Gonz 6. Ariz 7. KU 8. NDame 9. Nova 10. Lou 11. Iowa St 12. UNC 13. Utah 14. N.Iowa 15. WVa 16. Ohio St

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                    • lol

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                      • Originally posted by dwbarcl View Post
                        Seth davis has the Shockers 17 this week. We lose and move up in his book. UNI at 14
                        That makes a whole lot of sense. What is he taking pity on us this week? Lol
                        FINAL FOURS:
                        1965, 2013

                        NCAA Tournament:
                        1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021

                        NIT Champs - 1 (2011)

                        AP Poll History of Wichita St:
                        Number of Times Ranked: 157
                        Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
                        Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
                        Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

                        Highest Recent AP Ranking:
                        #3 - Dec. 2017
                        #2 ~ March 2014

                        Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
                        #2 ~ March 2014
                        Finished 2013 Season #4

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                        • He had already priced in the loss.
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                          • Too lazy to link but lots of ballots so far with us in the 12-17 range. Guessing we'll check in at #15.

                            I'd be pretty happy with that.

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                            • I'll accept 15 in a heartbeat. As if my acceptance is required. Lol.

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                              • Originally posted by wuhog View Post
                                I'll accept 15 in a heartbeat. As if my acceptance is required. Lol.
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