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  • Bret Strelow also keeps us at #16. Looks like we'll have a marginal gain in points this week, but hard to say how that translates to the ranking slot. Probably a jump to 15 or staying at 16, depending on whether Baylor gains enough to leap us (it looks like they might from early returns).

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    • My guess is we will come in at #15

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      • Originally posted by Play Angry View Post
        Bret Strelow also keeps us at #16. Looks like we'll have a marginal gain in points this week, but hard to say how that translates to the ranking slot. Probably a jump to 15 or staying at 16, depending on whether Baylor gains enough to leap us (it looks like they might from early returns).

        Jerr Palm was on the Border Patrol this morning talking Bracketology. Has Baylor as a 3 seed and the Shox as a 6 with a ceiling of a 4.

        My guess is that a lot pollsters are of the same mind, not thinking of how high we go, but instead, who jumps us..
        Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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        • Originally posted by jocoshock View Post
          My guess is that a lot pollsters are of the same mind, not thinking of how high we go, but instead, who jumps us..
          The unfortunate cost of laying a high profile egg on Deuce, nothing quite like pissing down your leg on National television. Just keep winning...
          Last edited by DUShock; February 9, 2015, 11:40 AM. Reason: Narrowed quote to target the intent of my reply
          “Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones

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          • Originally posted by jocoshock View Post
            Jerr Palm was on the Border Patrol this morning talking Bracketology. Has Baylor as a 3 seed and the Shox as a 6 with a ceiling of a 4.

            My guess is that a lot pollsters are of the same mind, not thinking of how high we go, but instead, who jumps us..
            I agree this is definitely the mindset of many media pundits. I would avoid putting too much stock in Palm's projections, though- his track record on seeding accuracy is atrocious.

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            • Jerry Palm is not good at what he does. I don't understand why his opinion is valued so much.

              Where does he have UNI slotted?
              Deuces Valley.
              ... No really, deuces.
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              - a smart man

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              • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
                Jerry Palm is not good at what he does. I don't understand why his opinion is valued so much.

                Where does he have UNI slotted?
                He didn't talk about UNI, and I haven't looked.
                Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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                • Shocks move up to #15 in the AP. No link showing vote totals yet.

                  edit: Here it is.

                  I don't have much of a gripe re: us moving up a spot following last week, but boy did Notre Dame ever get a free pass for the brutal ass kicking they received at Cameron. Also, UNC staying in place following a weak win against BC and a double digit home loss to UVA is pretty generous.
                  Last edited by Play Angry; February 9, 2015, 12:29 PM.

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                  • Notre Dame is going to have a rude awakening on Selection Sunday.
                    78-65

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                    • "Despite losses over the weekend to previously unranked foes, Kansas and Arizona are still the seventh and eighth ranked teams in the nation (following Virginia, Gonzaga, Duke, Wisconsin and Villanova). Also, following a 30-point loss to Duke on Saturday, Notre Dame also held steady at 10th overall. In fact, the only top-15 team that saw a rather large tumble was Iowa State, who dropped from 11th to 14th following its loss in Allen Fieldhouse to Kansas. Go figure."

                      Kentucky is still the unanimous No. 1, but the lack of movement throughout the poll despite losses is the overriding theme of this week's poll.


                      "It's just merely an observation regarding the jumble in college hoops this season, where it seems like there are legitimately 30 or so teams that could make a Sweet 16 run or even further."
                      Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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                      • Honestly, I might prefer WSU being a 6 seed over a 5. I think there are 3 or 4 elite teams and then a lot of really good teams. I'd rather play a 3 seed (
                        Iowa State, Utah, Louisville, UNC) and then a 2 seed (KU, Arizona, Villanova, Wisconsin) than playing a 4 seed (UNI, Baylor, Oklahoma, Notre Dame) and then a 1 seed (UK, Virginia, Gonzaga, Duke). We have to play well, but I think we could beat most the 2 and 3 seeds. I'm not sure even if we play well that we have much of a chance to beat most of the 1 seeds. Obviously this is assuming we win our first round game. I used Lunardi's latest bracket for seed projections.

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                        • Iowa State fans have been particularly insufferable this season, particularly when it come to UNI and WSU being ranked ahead of them.

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                          • Originally posted by Jhook89 View Post
                            Honestly, I might prefer WSU being a 6 seed over a 5. I think there are 3 or 4 elite teams and then a lot of really good teams. I'd rather play a 3 seed (
                            Iowa State, Utah, Louisville, UNC) and then a 2 seed (KU, Arizona, Villanova, Wisconsin) than playing a 4 seed (UNI, Baylor, Oklahoma, Notre Dame) and then a 1 seed (UK, Virginia, Gonzaga, Duke). We have to play well, but I think we could beat most the 2 and 3 seeds. I'm not sure even if we play well that we have much of a chance to beat most of the 1 seeds. Obviously this is assuming we win our first round game. I used Lunardi's latest bracket for seed projections.
                            I agree with your rationale; I pray the Shockers play in the West Region as a 6 seed. If this happens then I think they have an excellent chance to advance beyond Sweet 16 and have a decent chance to play in Elite 8 game against Gonzaga; this would be a great game!

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                            • This week's breakdown of who voted us where.

                              Highest: 10 (Doug Doughty, Scott Mansch)

                              Lowest: 19 (Andrew Carter)

                              Most Common: 15 (eighteen voters)


                              46 out of 65 voters slotted us at either #14, 15 or 16. Pretty strong consensus.

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                              • Originally posted by Play Angry View Post
                                This week's breakdown of who voted us where.

                                Highest: 10 (Doug Doughty, Scott Mansch)

                                Lowest: 19 (Andrew Carter)

                                Most Common: 15 (eighteen voters)


                                46 out of 65 voters slotted us at either #14, 15 or 16. Pretty strong consensus.
                                Seems pretty fair. Even 19 as the low doesn't seem that bad.

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