Marshall turned down $3 MM offer from MU

[SB Shock]

I think '13-'14 was a little harder on Marshall than most think. He constantly had to defend our SOS because the Valley was so bad and it's hard to get a quality game in Wichita. I've heard him say he felt like some people (national media) wanted him to apologize for winning. We all know it's BS, but that would never happen in a BCS league no matter how bad it was. We still don't get the respect we deserve and I think it wears on HCGM.
Another deep tourney run should take care of it. '14-'15 looks good to me.

I got that feeling also, especially after hearing his post-game comments. He seemed wore down and said as much. Having as much success this year for such a sustained period was much different than he was used to. I suspect he will now be better able to better manage it next year with where this team should be at Top 10 or 15 program.

[ShockerPrez]

Gregg has worked very very hard to get WSU to where it is now.

It is because of him, that the reasons he would want to leave are narrowing rapidly.

If WSU could ever narrow the reasons to only money, we should consider ourselves extremely fortunate.

I agree that I think he sees another final 4 run with Fred and Ron. I dont think he leaves them.

[ShockerFever]

I beg someone to go over to Tigerboard and post this. I'm dying to be entertained.

That's assuming somebody knows how to post there.

[ShockBand]

I beg someone to go over to Tigerboard and post this. I'm dying to be entertained.

That's assuming somebody knows how to post there.

It probably involves something like this:

[ripemupshocks]

I think this latest revelation changes the narrative for the better. Instead of "there were meetings" which sounds like 3G has interest, it changes to "he turned down a 70% raise to stay at WSU."

To put it in perspective, that's like going from 50k to 85k, or from 70k to 120k. (comparing 3m to 1.75m) Yes, I know that once you get into the millions, at some point money loses it's value, but how many people would really turn that down?

The article said:

Two sources close to search told me this week that Marshall turned down an offer worth approximately $3 million annually,

Not to quibble, but 3G's compensation package here, even without incentive bonuses, is certainly worth more than $1.75m. Hell, tooling around on one of those Business Jets he's supplied with (per contract), even a small one, ain't cheap: www.jets.com/fleet-access-jet-card. Then there's all the insurance, pension, annuity payments, kids college fund payments. That's all guaranteed. Then you start throwing in a little incentive money, and 3G's guaranteed pay package here and what Misery offered wouldn't be all that far apart. Certainly not worth pissing off the wife and kids by moving them, and the hassle of starting all over again with a potential loser. And as I've said before, there's the job security of a seven year rolling contract. That's worth a hell of a lot more than $3.0m per year with the risk of getting fired after only three.

[FlyingWheat]

The article said:

Not to quibble, but 3G's compensation package here, even without incentive bonuses, is certainly worth more than $1.75m. Hell, tooling around on one of those Business Jets he's supplied with (per contract), even a small one, ain't cheap: www.jets.com/fleet-access-jet-card. Then there's all the insurance, pension, annuity payments, kids college fund payments. That's all guaranteed. Then you start throwing in a little incentive money, and 3G's guaranteed pay package here and what Misery offered wouldn't be all that far apart. Certainly not worth pissing off the wife and kids by moving them, and the hassle of starting all over again with a potential loser. And as I've said before, there's the job security of a seven year rolling contract. That's worth a hell of a lot more than $3.0m per year with the risk of getting fired after only three.

So are you saying that the $3m per year would be including incentives? I assumed that it was a $3m base rate and that the difference in incentives wouldn't make that much of a difference. But I could be wrong. And it's not that big of a deal anyway. If you include those it does start to close the gap considerably, I understand.

[Aargh]

Perhaps Marshall is watching the track record of his predecessor.

[WSUwatcher]

Am I the only one who is disappointed that the MU job changed the media narrative on 3G? It used to be "he's happy, treated very well, and may possibly retire at WSU". Now it is "when a better job shows up in the next couple of years". What exactly happened here?

Who cares? The media narrative isn't what matters; it's what Marshall believes and wants, and there's no particular reason to think any of that has changed. He still presumably believes you can't buy happy, and he makes plenty of money as it is in a great situation for him and his family, so why even think about trying? That's what no one seems to appreciate: the reported $3 million vs. whatever smaller but considerable amount he ends up making at WSU didn't matter; what mattered was WSU and Wichita now vs. Missouri and "not Wichita" now, and that isn't even a close comparison for Marshall.

Edit: As for North Carolina, 1972, it's hard for me to imagine them picking someone not connected to their program in some way -- or for their fans accepting such a choice, especially some guy "at this level," however successful he may have been.

[1979Shocker]

I can believe it when the article says they were ready to offer Marshall $3 million a year. The part I don't believe is that Marshall wants to wait for a better opportunity in a year or two.

[Shox21]

If that so-called "better opportunity" presents itself, you can bet he will listen -- not saying he will take the job, but he will listen. He would be stupid not to and we all know Marshall is no one's dummy.

[moshock]

If MU offered $3m - will WSU give 3G a raise ?

[ShockerKhan]

Did we hit the lottery when Mark Turgeon left or what. Thought this part of the article was very interesting.

What’s going on at Maryland? Guard Seth Allen, forward Nick Faust, center Shaq Cleare and guard Roddy Peters have all left the team since the end of a 17-15 season in which the Terrapins failed to make the NCAA tournament and even the NIT.

“I’m a little bit of everything—surprised, angry disappointed,” Maryland coach Mark Turgeon told reporters this week. “All those emotions come into it. But what am I going to do? Am I going to sit here and cry about it? No. I’m going to recruit players and get to 13 (scholarships) and ... we’ll hopefully be a tighter group because of it.”

Maybe so, but another mediocre-to-dismal season seems inevitable. And if that happens, you have to wonder whether Turgeon’s job will be in jeopardy. The former Texas A&M coach has yet to make the NCAA tournament after arriving from Texas A&M in the summer of 2011.

[jpshocker]

Am I the only one who is disappointed that the MU job changed the media narrative on 3G? It used to be "he's happy, treated very well, and may possibly retire at WSU". Now it is "when a better job shows up in the next couple of years". What exactly happened here?

I'm not sure how much we should read into this. I find it hard to believe that he would have told representatives from another school that he was "waiting for something better". First of all it would be a Delta Bravo move in an interview type situation and I can't see him burning any bridges with another program like that. I can't imagine telling someone in a job interview that their company isn't as good as other options I would be interested in. Secondly those types of comments would inevitably make their way into the public and I'm sure he isn't interested in WSU knowing that was his feeling even if it were true. He doesn't seem to enjoy answering questions about his leaving WSU and a comment like that would only lead to more speculation as it has here. For those reasons I'm not sure how much stock you can put into that comment.

[SHOCKvalue]

I'm not sure how much we should read into this. I find it hard to believe that he would have told representatives from another school that he was "waiting for something better". First of all it would be a Delta Bravo move in an interview type situation and I can't see him burning any bridges with another program like that. I can't imagine telling someone in a job interview that their company isn't as good as other options I would be interested in. Secondly those types of comments would inevitably make their way into the public and I'm sure he isn't interested in WSU knowing that was his feeling even if it were true. He doesn't seem to enjoy answering questions about his leaving WSU and a comment like that would only lead to more speculation as it has here. For those reasons I'm not sure how much stock you can put into that comment.

I wasn't talking about words coming directly from 3G, but about the prevalent new thrust by some in the media.

[Cdizzle]

I wasn't talking about words coming directly from 3G, but about the prevalent new thrust by some in the media.