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Originally posted by MadaboutWu View PostNCCU was a great buy game, basically close to the best you can get. As we are not going away from a couple of buy games I'd be thrilled to have them on the schedule every year if they can maintain their level.
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I'll re-post my question since it got side tracked the first time by Doc doing his best Fever impression and Fever, well, being Fever.
Anyone else nervous about the possibility that although we have what looks like a much improved schedule overall, we could still easily reach the end of the year without playing more than maybe one or two NCAA Tournament level teams?
Change "NCAA Tournament level" to top Top 25, or Top 50, or Sweet 16 hopefuls, or Big Time Opponents, or... or... or...
I'm not here trying to argue what specifically defines an opponent to get excited about as we all will have different opinions. I'm just trying to say that at the end of the day, we can all agree that it feels like the Shox are basically doomed to have one of the worst SOS of any top 25 team, year-in-and-year-out. I find it frustrating, and when I hear that the schedule looks better next year but then see so few games against top competition, it feels like a big downer.
Anyone else feel that way? Anyone else care to have a basketball conversation or are we stuck in a rut where JH4P = ass and no further conversation can be had?
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WSU has the 4th best OOC SOS of the top 10 teams in the AP poll. Only KU, Duke and Florida have better ones. There isn't a thing Wichita State can do about the other valley teams OOC scheduling.Marge: The plant called and said that if you don't come in tomorrow, don't bother coming in Monday.
Homer: WOOHOO! Four day weekend.
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JH4P ~ time for a new league. Right now it is what it is. Time for a new league.FINAL FOURS:
1965, 2013
NCAA Tournament:
1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021
NIT Champs - 1 (2011)
AP Poll History of Wichita St:
Number of Times Ranked: 157
Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)
Highest Recent AP Ranking:
#3 - Dec. 2017
#2 ~ March 2014
Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
#2 ~ March 2014
Finished 2013 Season #4
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Originally posted by AZ Shocker View PostJH4P ~ time for a new league. Right now it is what it is. Time for a new league.
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JH4P sounds like what you are saying is that you want to play someone with a name on their jersey and I am 110% for that. No matter what has been said in the past that it isnt all about the name on the jersey; when you are trying to pick an opponent it is maybe the most important thing to consider. When we wanted to be picked then we had the other shoe on and said the name shouldnt matter. Our name is getting their quick, wont be long when we will be landing the kind of names I think most on here are looking for.
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This has not been a 1 or 2 year deal, as many in the short-minded media would have you believe. WSU has averaged a kenPom rating of 15 and an RPI of 18 over the past 4 seasons. This just so happens to roughly (if not exactly) coincide with the time Marshall had his first full team at WSU. Folks should be catching on.
The Final 4 was great. Beyond great. But the 2012 and 2014 teams were both Top 10 caliber teams, each 1 possession away from racking up a lot more NCAA tourney wins for WSU. Anyone who doesn't think this train is going to keep rolling so long as Marshall is here has missed the boat.
I'd love to see a schedule with a bunch of big names on it, coming to Koch arena. But I'm content watching a Top 10 team dismantle anyone with the guts to play them, and letting the dust settle where it may in March/April.
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I think Coach has the program on the right track. Cdizzle was right when he said that this ride has been around for a while now. Actually things have going pretty well over the last decade. Turgeon had some very solid teams, a league title and sweet sixteen to his credit. Marshall has just taken it to a new level. We just need to keep him here till he decides to retire. Well it would be nice...
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Originally posted by Kung Wu View PostI imagine our schedule will be an improvement over the past two years; and those two years happen to be a couple of the best years of WSU basketball ever. So why be concerned?
When Bill Gates gets a splinter, I doubt he gets depressed and thinks his life is terrible. I bet he still knows he is living a very privileged, comfortable life. That said, I bet he simultaneously thinks “this splinter sucks, I wish I could get rid of it”.
That’s all I’m really saying. WSU basketball is doing great… about as good as ever in fact. At the same time, the top of the schedule is a bit of a downer to me. I wish it could be better. I see other programs with more high quality opponents on a regular basis and I get jealous. I’m a geek who posts this opinion on a message board. The strange thing is, other geeks call me an ass for explaining my feelings… feelings which, to be honest, I bet they share at times.
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