i almost hate to bring this up...

[molly jabali]

...but a couple of years ago, i was able to 'break the story' on here(whoa...big me!!!! :D ) about wendell coming here because my brother teaches and coaches at his school, and he told me it was happening.my brother raved about his character and his intellect and what a good kid he is, while being cautious that he was not the best player on his hs team...a serviceable player.i must admit, i feel bad that i have not made more of an effort to make him feel a connection here...i have met him once, his first year, and he was most pleasant.

point is...for me, it becomes harder to say a kid needs to be gone when you feel some kind of connection, and while i know it is about wins and losses, it also is about family.

btw...do you remember that wendell STARTED the very first game here...in an exhibition?if not the first exi, it was the second...

done rantin'...

[wu_shizzle]

I always thought that would become some crazy trivia question that he started his first game as a freshman.

[fastbow]

I know how you feel Molly.
I'm kinda glad Bret Michael is a walk-on instead of a scholarship player. It saves me a lot of face on here. Life is so much easier without an attachment to the players...

[C0|dB|00ded]

Any time you are close to the issue at hand you will have a different perspective. That is why some are so sensitive to personal issues surrounding the program and some aren't. Some on here have players over for dinner for crying out loud. Those "insiders" will certainly have other qualities they look for in a program or a person than a typical fan whose main concern is W/L improvement. I think it is best to personally step away from the issue when discussing what is "best" for the program.

Whether or not "Player A" picks pockets off the court as well as on the court means very little to the typical fan who wants to "live through" the on-court success of the team he/she loves.

Would I want Bill Walker over at my house for dinner? "Hell'z no", but I certainly would want him on the court winning games for my team...


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[Shirley Schmidt]

Some on here have players over for dinner for crying out loud.

I thought that buying or having a player over for dinner without providing that to all members on the team was a violation of NCAA rules?

I hope I am wrong.

[wsu789]

Cold, I may be way off, but I think the "typical" fan does indeed care whether our players are picking pockets off the court. I know you don't. But I think you're in the minority in that way of thinking.

[1972Shocker]

Oh, oh! Another thread on Wendell.

Poor kid seems to have become the lightning rod for our struggles this season.

Man, we could sure use a couple of well played games and wins to perk us all up a little bit.

[wu_shizzle]

Oh, oh! Another thread on Wendell.

Poor kid seems to have become the lightning rod for our struggles this season.

Man, could we sure use a couple of well played games and wins to perk us all up a little bit.

It's a lot more fun to win...

[WstateU]

Oh, oh! Another thread on Wendell.

Poor kid seems to have become the lightning rod for our struggles this season.

Man, we could sure use a couple of well played games and wins to perk us all up a little bit.

We're in desperate need of a humorous off-topic thread. :yahoo:

[C0|dB|00ded]

Cold, I may be way off, but I think the "typical" fan does indeed care whether our players are picking pockets off the court. I know you don't. But I think you're in the minority in that way of thinking.

You're way off, except on a message board where most don't have the balls to lay down their moralistic cape of justice and just be themselves. Do a little research of some of the largest, most successful athletic institutions and you will see countless articles about off-court infractions. Nobody likes people who break the law but it seems to be a way of life amongst the highest level of athlete. KU has their stabbers and KSU has their rapists and drunk drivers.. hell KSU even had a drunk driving coach.

Yes, I'm sure there are those that do hang their hat on their alma mater's athletic department arrest record, but the majority do so only because it is their only source of pride. Those that espouse the greatness of having a team that is graduating and "staying out of trouble" would trade said team for a Final Four contender (and a few malcontents) in a heart beat.

Thanks and goodnight!


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[WstateU]

Cold, I may be way off, but I think the "typical" fan does indeed care whether our players are picking pockets off the court. I know you don't. But I think you're in the minority in that way of thinking.

You're way off, except on a message board where most don't have the balls to lay down their moralistic cape of justice and just be themselves. Do a little research of some of the largest, most successful athletic institutions and you will see countless articles about off-court infractions. Nobody likes people who break the law but it seems to be a way of life amongst the highest level of athlete. KU has their stabbers and KSU has their rapists and drunk drivers.. hell KSU even had a drunk driving coach.

Yes, I'm sure there are those that do hang their hat on their alma mater's athletic department arrest record, but the majority do so only because it is their only source of pride. Those that espouse the greatness of having a team that is graduating and "staying out of trouble" would trade said team for a Final Four contender (and a few malcontents) in a heart beat.

Thanks and goodnight!


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Sleep tight Cold... and stay away from sharp objects.

[MadDog]

hmmmm... I wonder why the Indiana fans can't wait for Friday to get here so they can see their coach (of the 14th ranked team and potential final four contender) fired in mid-season. I think it means something to those people...

[SB Shock]

Oh, oh! Another thread on Wendell.

Poor kid seems to have become the lightning rod for our struggles this season.

Man, we could sure use a couple of well played games and wins to perk us all up a little bit.

We're in desperate need of a humorous off-topic thread. :yahoo:

well we had the weekly "referree" thread, but it got deleted.

[RoyalShock]

Oh, oh! Another thread on Wendell.

Poor kid seems to have become the lightning rod for our struggles this season.

Not only that, he's already becoming a lightning rod for next season.

[molly jabali]

well, i called my brother to wish him happy birthday, and in the course of the conversation, he says, 'how's wendell doing?', and i say...'funny you should ask'...... :D