Future Schedule

[RoyalShock]

There are two sides to every pancake.

Thank you Jamar Howard for seeing this issue from KU's perspective again, and not from the Shockers perspective. You continue to keep us contained and in perspective and in the slow lane.

I must be a KU guy, too, because I understand and agree with JH4P. Self obviously believes it's a strategy that pays dividends so more power to him. I don't even see where the Shockers perspective is at in that situation. I'm sure we try to schedule games in areas we want to recruit, too.

Why does just about anyone with an objective opinion have to be derided by the yellow-glasses crowd? And oftentimes without any valid rebuttal? Either debate the point or stay on the sidelines. Talk about intolerance. All the in-fighting here is getting ridiculous.

[im4wsu]

ABC, I think you are missing some of the points or confusing two different reasons. SDSU, Temple, and UNLV are games scheduled to help with recruiting. Colorado was scheduled because of Tad Boyle. Like it or not, those are the reasons.

Colorado was probably scheduled not for Tad, specifically, but because KU has always been successful there, it's close to Denver, and the KU fans used to far outnumber the Colorado fans at Coors Event Center.

[Flip1381]

Colorado was probably scheduled not for Tad, specifically, but because KU has always been successful there, it's close to Denver, and the KU fans used to far outnumber the Colorado fans at Coors Event Center.

I absolutely agree with this.

[ABC]

The last point I will make is that there is always some "other" reason when KU plays non-big boys on the road.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Jamar you usually don't use the straw man but here it is square and center. When did I or anyone else say that KU doesn't need to "work hard" on recruiting.

Here's a recap...

I believe the reason given is that they recruit in California. They do not need to recruit in Wichita, because they can already get any Wichita player they want.

Right. KU really needs help recruiting anywhere.

ABC, you discounted the idea that KU would gain a recruiting advantage by playing in certain locations. You didn't say that the strategy doesn't work. You said KU didn't need it. To me, that implies you were saying that KU doesn't need to work hard.

How can what you said be interpreted any other way? Like I said, comment on KU's intentions all you want. That is fair game if you think they are lying. But you said KU doesn't need help recruiting anywhere. That means something entirely different.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

The last point I will make is that there is always some "other" reason when KU plays non-big boys on the road.

I agree that there are enough of these "other" games that you have to think some have legitimate reasons for getting scheduled, while others are more just filler and reasons are fabricated after the fact in order to cover KU's image.

[wu_shizzle]

And KU needs recruiting help? Please.

If you believe their fans, it's Self's only weakness.

[ABC]

ABC, you discounted the idea that KU would gain a recruiting advantage by playing in certain locations. You didn't say that the strategy doesn't work. You said KU didn't need it. To me, that implies you were saying that KU doesn't need to work hard.

How can what you said be interpreted any other way? Like I said, comment on KU's intentions all you want. That is fair game if you think they are lying. But you said KU doesn't need help recruiting anywhere. That means something entirely different.

Oh boy. Implies? Saying that I don't think KU needs to schedule a game at UNLV to help with recruiting in no way implies I don't think they should work hard. Just stop. No wonder you drive so many people crazy on this board. (that's not even considering the scheduling context in which I made the comment)

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Then tell me, what did you mean by "Right. KU really needs help recruiting anywhere."

[pogo]

I must be a KU guy, too, because I understand and agree with JH4P. Self obviously believes it's a strategy that pays dividends so more power to him. I don't even see where the Shockers perspective is at in that situation. I'm sure we try to schedule games in areas we want to recruit, too.

Why does just about anyone with an objective opinion have to be derided by the yellow-glasses crowd? And oftentimes without any valid rebuttal? Either debate the point or stay on the sidelines. Talk about intolerance. All the in-fighting here is getting ridiculous.

I am usually the one that wears the yellow glasses and my glass is always 3/4 full for our Shocks but I too agree with Royal in this. The flagship schedules to their recruiting benefit. Playing in Wichita is not a recruiting benefit. If they are recruiting a local kid why schedule Wichita in Wichita at the risk of losing. They can just as easily have the kid come up for a visit and play in a venue that they have a great chance of winning. I think people need to give all the bickering a rest or ignore it if they think someone is trolling. JMO (also my wifes)

[Kung Wu]

Colorado was probably scheduled not for Tad, specifically, but because KU has always been successful there, it's close to Denver, and the KU fans used to far outnumber the Colorado fans at Coors Event Center.

Naaaaaaw. Colorado was scheduled up so his boys could get some R&R and chillax with some righteous legal doobage before the stress of finals for his one and done players.

Ya'll make this too complicated.

[ABC]

Then tell me, what did you mean by "Right. KU really needs help recruiting anywhere."

Turn it back on you, how in any way does that mean KU shouldn't or doesn't work at recruiting? Stop. Now I really promise this is the last I am going to comment on this, regardless of how your respond.

[pie n eye]

Naaaaaaw. Colorado was scheduled up so his boys could get some R&R and chillax with some righteous legal doobage before the stress of finals for his one and done players.

Ya'll make this too complicated.

Their game was pre 1/1/14 so, even if cannabis wasn't a banned substance for athletes, they would not have been able to purchase any doobage no matter how righteous. Not to mention most of the KU players are younger than the minimum age of 21.

As far as this ridiculous KU scheduling/recruiting argument that's been brought up again (somehow) I do think its humorous how certain posters are really quick to defend the flagship.

If they're worried about playing games near players they're recruiting how about they pick a state and we'll saddle up and play a neutral site game there.

Back in reality I'll say it again, we don't need to schedule KU. At this point I could care less if they're on the schedule. It might shock some of their fans to discover but they're not the only good team in college basketball.

[AZ Shocker]

Las Vegas is an AAU hotbed.

I had no idea. In fact I don't think most Shocker fans knew that either. To go further...I highly doubt Gregg Marshall and his staff knew about AAU kids in Vegas either. A small measly non-BCS school like Wichita St. should do some research and look into where the AAU kids are playing. So glad you mentioned that Flip. I'll forward your reply to the Wichita St. sports administration department. Thanks for the insight.

[Flip1381]

Right. KU really needs help recruiting anywhere. KU also has a series starting with UNLV.

I had no idea. In fact I don't think most Shocker fans knew that either. To go further...I highly doubt Gregg Marshall and his staff knew about AAU kids in Vegas either. A small measly non-BCS school like Wichita St. should do some research and look into where the AAU kids are playing. So glad you mentioned that Flip. I'll forward your reply to the Wichita St. sports administration department. Thanks for the insight.

Well I'm glad I could give you some redundant information; however, the person I was replying to brought up a scheduled game with UNLV like they were confused that there would be a recruiting purpose to a game with UNLV.