Future Schedule

[Shock Top]

Tennessee and Alabama have just as much or more money than Florida and if Florida buys us in then they will think they can too. There will be no reason to come to Wichita and face an increased chance of a loss. No they would not have backed out of the series they already signed but instead of being interested in renewing the series they would be trying to buy us in or offering a 2 for 1

I would offer FLA something similar to what we offered KU. A game in FLA, a game in ICT, and a neutral (maybe ATL?). I would offer the same to programs like MSU and Duke as well (neutral locations to change respectively of course).

Speaking of schedules, should we just crown DePaul as our new rival? I mean, we can already lock them in for one of our games every year.

[ABC]

Interestingly, with all of Bills Self's talk about playing us not benefiting them, they are playing Utah next year in the Sprint Center as a neutral court game with no return....

That doesn't help our care. If BCS teams like Utah do a "buy" game, then why shouldn't WSU? I think it is odd that Utah agreed to that.

[RoyalShock]

What are you basing that on? How do you know that if you play that game at Florida and win, that teams won't want to play WSU? Its all speculative.

It's not exactly speculative when the guy (Boatright) who puts the schedule together and talks with all these others schools says it. As fans, we have no direct insight into it. He's the expert. I see no reason not to take him at his word.

[RoyalShock]

That doesn't help our care. If BCS teams like Utah do a "buy" game, then why shouldn't WSU? I think it is odd that Utah agreed to that.

Utah may be Pac-12, but I question whether their program is viewed at that level. Was the SDSU game a "buy" game?

[Flip1381]

Tennessee and Alabama have just as much or more money than Florida and if Florida buys us in then they will think they can too. There will be no reason to come to Wichita and face an increased chance of a loss. No they would not have backed out of the series they already signed but instead of being interested in renewing the series they would be trying to buy us in or offering a 2 for 1

I understand the mentality, I just don't believe that people in charge of scheduling work that way. Just because Florida offered a "buy game" and WSU turned it down, does not automatically get a home/home games with Ten and Ala or other teams. What were the reasons Tennessee and Alabama scheduled the home/home series with WSU? It was to benefit their schedules and their school, not to benefit WSU.

Yes, if WSU turns it down, then it sets a precedent that WSU will turn it down and that is all well and good as long as the schedule can continue to be filled out. The problem comes in when the SoS looks like it did this year, but WSU doesn't end up being undefeated, then it becomes a selection sunday problem.

[Flip1381]

It's not exactly speculative when the guy (Boatright) who puts the schedule together and talks with all these others schools says it. As fans, we have no direct insight into it. He's the expert. I see no reason not to take him at his word.

Boatright has said in interviews or to sources that he knows for sure that "If WSU takes buy games from one school then they will be expected to take buy games from everyone else?"

If he has, I've not seen it and that is suprising. And its really detrimental to my argument.

[jocoshock]

That doesn't help our care. If BCS teams like Utah do a "buy" game, then why shouldn't WSU? I think it is odd that Utah agreed to that.

Wasn't suggesting we do that. Just found it interesting that KU doesn't have a problem playing them in a neutral site vs. Allen Field House. Anyway, no need to veer off topic...

[jocoshock]

Wasn't suggesting we do that. Just found it interesting that KU doesn't have a problem playing them in a neutral site vs. Allen Field House. Anyway, no need to veer off topic...

edit: also brought this up since Boatright mentioned a neutral site game.

[jdmee]

Interesting article on future scheduling possibilities. We've heard several of these names but Boatright specifically mentions: New Mexico, Utah, Purdue, Connecticut, Oklahoma and Memphis. He also said the Tennessee series may continue and that Florida offered us straight up money to play one game there and we said no thanks. Sounds like we may have a neutral site game as well but no specifics were given.

http://www.kansas.com/2014/03/17/335...es-a-time.html

I would take the UConn and Memphis games. Maybe continue the Tulsa series and add a couple of schools like Houston and Cincinnati. Hmm, I wonder what that is starting to sound like.

[Steeleshocker]

I understand the mentality, I just don't believe that people in charge of scheduling work that way. Just because Florida offered a "buy game" and WSU turned it down, does not automatically get a home/home games with Ten and Ala or other teams. What were the reasons Tennessee and Alabama scheduled the home/home series with WSU? It was to benefit their schedules and their school, not to benefit WSU.

Yes, if WSU turns it down, then it sets a precedent that WSU will turn it down and that is all well and good as long as the schedule can continue to be filled out. The problem comes in when the SoS looks like it did this year, but WSU doesn't end up being undefeated, then it becomes a selection sunday problem.

Our non-con SOS this year was in the top 30. Or scheduling is fine as it is with or current philosophy of no buy games. If we had the #1 non-con we'd still have issues because the valley would drop us down to 70-80.

[ABC]

Utah may be Pac-12, but I question whether their program is viewed at that level. Was the SDSU game a "buy" game?

KU goes to SDSU next year.

[shocks02]

Utah > Purdue

[RoyalShock]

Boatright has said in interviews or to sources that he knows for sure that "If WSU takes buy games from one school then they will be expected to take buy games from everyone else?"

If he has, I've not seen it and that is suprising. And its really detrimental to my argument.

From the posted article:

What hasn’t changed is WSU’s refusal to play a road game for a check and no return game. Accepting that kind of a deal would hurt WSU’s ability to land a home-and-home series.

“It compromises what you’re doing,” Boatright said. “Florida straight-up offered us money. We weren’t interested in that. In Tennessee’s mind, there’s no difference between Tennessee and Florida.”

That clearly implies that if you take a buy game from Florida, Tennessee, who sees themselves as Florida's equals, may not agree to anything more than what you just agreed to with Florida.

[Flip1381]

From the posted article:



That clearly implies that if you take a buy game from Florida, Tennessee, who sees themselves as Florida's equals, may not agree to anything more than what you just agreed to with Florida.

I'll concede that its the mentality they are trying to build, even though I don't agree with that idea right now.

However, what you are implying is basically the point I'm trying to make. If the implication is that Tennessee will do what Florida does, then since Florida didn't offer a home/home series after the refusal of a Buy Game then that would mean Tennessee wouldn't offer or accept a home/home series as well, correct?

Just because one team offers a buy game and you accept it does not mean that another team will not accept a home/home.

[wufan]

Tennessee already did a home and home with us.