Certain Groups' Speculation Over Team Violations

[wufan]

It's not ingenious. Everyone does it. Kids have jobs in the off-season.

[SHOCKvalue]

The Lubber's claims seem odd. I realize that was MA's place of employment during his sit out year, but always presumed it was just a job he sourced himself. I mean is the Lubber family even considered to be a WSU booster? They very well might be, but I have never heard the connection.

If we were skirting the rules and setting anyone up with a cherry gig at an auto dealership, one would sure assume that dealership would either be either Davis Moore or Steven - located in Wichita with very real WSU connections - not Lubbers clear the heck out in Cheney.

[Ta town]

I wouldn't worry about it, talk from a loser fan. Reminds me of the one or two fans on each board that would blame the loss to WSU on a poor shooting night and all around bad play, even when it happened to them twice it's just their own coaches/players fault. Then usually same fan talks about WSU not really being a top 10 team, Marshall a jerk, even saw on one board calling Baker a DB. (I could see not like playing against him but his actions on the court are anything but D-baggish). Anyways just part of being on top.

Baker was a redshirt and was part of the actual team so he couldn't have worked. Armstead wasn't on the roster and could do as he pleased, Coleby I am unsure if he was actually on the roster last season or not.

[wufan]

Baker was a redshirt and was part of the actual team so he couldn't have worked. Armstead wasn't on the roster and could do as he pleased, Coleby I am unsure if he was actually on the roster last season or not.

Baker was on the team, but could have worked, just not during the season. Armstead and Colbey were both part of the team as well, but since they were ineligible transfers they could not travel with the team. Same with Joe Mitchell.

[1972Shocker]

The Lubber's claims seem odd. I realize that was MA's place of employment during his sit out year, but always presumed it was just a job he sourced himself. I mean is the Lubber family even considered to be a WSU booster? They very well might be, but I have never heard the connection.

If we were skirting the rules and setting anyone up with a cherry gig at an auto dealership, one would sure assume that dealership would either be either Davis Moore or Steven - located in Wichita with very real WSU connections - not Lubbers clear the heck out in Cheney.

Yes, the Lubbers automobile dealerships are Shocker boosters. They have been game sponsors on several occasions. Just about every area car dealership has been. OTOH, find me a successful retail business in Wichita area who is not to some degree or other. To the best of my knowledge and belief Ron and Kadeem did not work for Lubbers or any other car dealers.

The MSU supporter said that he read an article by the Shocker beat writer (Suellentrop I guess) that reported that all 3 worked for the same car dealership. I follow the Shock pretty closely and don't remember such an article nor do I remember seeing any such thing on Shockernet (and believe me there is very little that gets by Shockernet related to the Shockers). That should be easy enough for this character making the accusations to reproduce. I won't be losing any sleep over it, that's for sure.

[GOSHOX1]

I personally know the owners and they are way above the board people. When you have success people will always try to tear you down!! Sour grapes is right

[SHOCKvalue]

Yes, the Lubbers automobile dealerships are Shocker boosters. They have been game sponsors on several occasions. OTOH, find me a successful retail business in Wichita area who is not to some degree or other. To the best of my knowledge and belief Ron and Kadeem did not work for Lubbers or any other car dealers.

The MSU supporter said that he read an article by the Shocker beat writer (Suellentrop I guess) that reported that all 3 worked for the same car dealership. I follow the Shock pretty closely and don't remember such an article nor do I remember seeing any such thing on Shockernet (and believe me there is very little that gets by Shockernet related to the Shockers). That should be easy enough for this character making the accusations to reproduce. I won't be losing any sleep over it, that's for sure.

Yeah I read the same post on that board last night and had a similar reaction as yourself. I may not have the memory of some of the posters here, nor exhaustively read every WSU media piece offered, but his claim of 3 players working at a car dealership via Paul S had me scratching my head.

At some point stuff like this could be considered libel, I would assume. It is one thing to talk trash and throw **** at a wall in typical internet forum fashion, and quite another to knowingly pass off false information concerning NCAA indiscretions that never actually happened. The Bare-tard is best advised to STFU!

[DUShock]

Whispers and inuinedo is for simpletons.

[Shocktoberfest]

Sounds like good 'ol Roy is at it again.

[1972Shocker]

No problem. Bring the NCAA in to investigate Lubbers Auto dealerships. Of course, we will need the books of all the John Q. Hammons' companies opened up for scrutiny as well. There is just as much evidence of wrong-doing by JQH as there is by the Lubbers family. Which is none at this point in time.

[SHOCKvalue]

No problem. Bring the NCAA in to investigate Lubbers Auto dealerships. Of course, we will need the books of all the John Q. Hammons' companies opened up for scrutiny as well. There is just as much evidence of wrong-doing by JQH as there is by the Lubbers family. Which is none at this point in time.

Seriously. Fat, overweight pot meet humble kettle.

[moshock]

Several of their posters can't stand the fact the WSU is a very successful program. It's the same group that wants MSU to move to the Sunbelt. They don't get it.

[shoxlax]

It's not ingenious. Everyone does it. Kids have jobs in the off-season.

Everyone does that but very few have done what Malcolm did

[shoxlax]

Several of their posters can't stand the fact the WSU is a very successful program. It's the same group that wants MSU to move to the Sunbelt. They don't get it.

Don't all of their players work in Branson at the Baldknobbers show?

[1972Shocker]

Don't all of their players work in Branson at the Baldknobbers show?

Only in a behind the scenes capacity. Something to do with polishing their knobs.