YES- Writer argues that A-10 should pursue Wichita State

[Rlh04d]

I think I come down as a no on the A-10 for the reasons people are saying. If we knew they were stable it would be a very different question and I would be happy to join. But losing SLU would be a huge hit for WSU let alone for the league. AAC, MWC or bust is where I'm at right now, though the re-alignment picture is changing all the time.

Like I mentioned earlier, there are three requirements I would want for us to go to the A-10:

1) Dayton and VCU have to stay.
2) We'd need a western partner to join with us. I vote Bradley or SIU.
3) Significant conference buyout increase to ensure stability.

I'd MUCH prefer the AAC or MWC, though.

[Shock Top]

The AAC is going to need to make a splash to get the conference off and running, with Louisville's departure.

What bigger splash is there then adding a 30-0 team??

[pogo]

As has been stated before we should hold out for a bid to the big12? but they already have one school that doesn't play football.

[Play Angry]

Like I mentioned earlier, there are three requirements I would want for us to go to the A-10:

1) Dayton and VCU have to stay.
2) We'd need a western partner to join with us. I vote Bradley or SIU.
3) Significant conference buyout increase to ensure stability.

I'd MUCH prefer the AAC or MWC, though.

Agree with all of this. The A-10 would be minimally acceptable if Dayton/VCU stick around and we let Bradley hop on our coattails. I'd view it as a slight upgrade from the MVC.

The AAC/MWC remains the jackpot, though.

[lemuel777]

Agree with all of this. The A-10 would be minimally acceptable if Dayton/VCU stick around and we let Bradley hop on our coattails. I'd view it as a slight upgrade from the MVC.

The AAC/MWC remains the jackpot, though.

It really worth all the trouble of switching conferences worth a slight upgrade? St Louis is considered a nobody win for the Shockers this year even though they are from the A-10 and ranked #10, so what would it make it any better than going undefeated in the MVC year in and year out?

[Cdizzle]

St Louis is considered a nobody win for the Shockers this year even though they are from the A-10 and ranked #10, so what would it make it any better than going undefeated in the MVC year in and year out?

That is the opinion of some national talking heads, and as such, some public. It does not necessarily reflect the Selection Committees opinion, which is the only one that really matters.

[Ricardo del Rio]

AAC.

[DoubleJayAlum]

Do you think Nova would block St. Joe's? They seem like a natural along with SLU for the BE.

Nova would block St Joe's faster than you can say, "Philly Cheesesteak." Xavier will block Dayton. There are rumors that Georgetown will block VCU. I suspect that these "blockers" will unite and do one of those "I won't support school X if you don't support school Y" things.

[shockerofandover0943]

Nova would block St Joe's faster than you can say, "Philly Cheesesteak." Xavier will block Dayton. There are rumors that Georgetown will block VCU. I suspect that these "blockers" will unite and do one of those "I won't support school X if you don't support school Y" things.

And then World War I happened.

[DoubleJayAlum]

It really worth all the trouble of switching conferences worth a slight upgrade? St Louis is considered a nobody win for the Shockers this year even though they are from the A-10 and ranked #10, so what would it make it any better than going undefeated in the MVC year in and year out?

Yes. The impact on strength of schedule is substantial. As a recovering BCS hater, I always knew that the power conference schools got a boost to the SOS by playing conference games, but never knew how much. The impact is almost beyond comprehension. Let me show you an example:

NONCON SOS (per warrennolan.com):
WSU -- 36
CU – 48
Essentially our noncons are the same, right? WSU’s is slightly better, but a difference of 12 spots is probably not all that statistically significant. Both schools put together quality noncom schedules.

Now, with only a few conference games left, look what the difference in conference has done to the respective SOS of each school.

Overall SOS (per warrennolan.com):
WSU – 107
CU – 21

The MVC has absolutely decimated WSU’s SOS. Thankfully you guys are kicking every single MVC’s school’s ass, so the impact to your rankings and seed are probably unaffected. The question becomes, “Can WSU go undefeated every year?” If one answers affirmatively, there may be no need to change conferences. If one answers negatively though, you have to consider the impact any losses will have on ranking, tournament seeding and potential at large bid opportunities.

I’ve seen some here bristle at comments by national writers stating that the MVC is “weak”, “not a good conference”, etc. Those comments used to tick me off too. I thought, “those guys don’t know what they are talking about. It can be hard to go to Terre Haute or, Evansville and play at your best every single night, especially when those schools could make their whole season just by beating the #1 team in he cnf. standings.” The truth though, as indicted by the SOS numbers above, is that the MVC is not a good conference and, this year in particular, is really, really weak.

You guys need to get out. I agree with the other posters who point out that certain MVC schools don’t truly care about competing nationally. Or, if they do, they don’t have the funds to do so. I hate college football and what it has done to the college sports landscape. That impact is felt in the MVC too as some of the schools care more about football than basketball. Even those that value BBall more still suffer from the football money pit sucking off dollars that could be used for bball improvement.

I like the A10 (and, if any remember, I actually came here a few years ago and suggested that both WSu and CU move to the A10). AAC and MWC might seem nicer, but I would be really wary of being the only nonFb school in any conference. I know many of you feel like you never get a beneficial decision from the MVC or don’t have the votes to push beneficial changes to the conference. Can you imagine how you’d feel when the voting takes place in the AAC and MWC where football decisions will almost always come first? And guess what happens when it comes time to split up TV money. Do you honestly think that those other schools won’t try to screw a basketball only school in that distribution? Ask the C7 how football based decisions can wreck a conference.

The A10 is a basketball only conference. It is a strong conference. Despite losing Xavier, Butler and Temple, the A10 could send as many as six teams to the NCAA tourney this year. They will continue to be strong.

[UofMemphis]

"Can you imagine how you’d feel when the voting takes place in the AAC and MWC where football decisions will almost always come first? And guess what happens when it comes time to split up TV money. Do you honestly think that those other schools won’t try to screw a basketball only school in that distribution? Ask the C7 how football based decisions can wreck a conference."

The AAC has a 70-30 TV credit split...so that's that...nothing to vote on...Navy would get a 70% share...WSU would get a 30% share.

Plus the NCAA credit sharing cut. (which is also set)

The C7 are petulant Catholic schools who are far more interested in schools like St Louis over schools like WSU.

[pie n eye]

Don't CU fans have BIGGER more important things to do than post on Shockernet?

[DoubleJayAlum]

The AAC has a 70-30 TV credit split...so that's that...nothing to vote on...Navy would get a 70% share...WSU would get a 30% share.

Thanks for proving my point.

[DoubleJayAlum]

Don't CU fans have BIGGER more important things to do than post on Shockernet?

I've been obsessed with realignment since it started (restarted?). Subgod and I, along with Royal to a lesser extent, used to talk about it here all the time.

None of my comments were intended to be negative toward WSU. You guys are having a truly remarkable season. You just deserve a better conference.

Also, I'm at lunch...

[Play Angry]

"Can you imagine how you’d feel when the voting takes place in the AAC and MWC where football decisions will almost always come first? And guess what happens when it comes time to split up TV money. Do you honestly think that those other schools won’t try to screw a basketball only school in that distribution? Ask the C7 how football based decisions can wreck a conference."

The AAC has a 70-30 TV credit split...so that's that...nothing to vote on...Navy would get a 70% share...WSU would get a 30% share.

Plus the NCAA credit sharing cut. (which is also set)

The C7 are petulant Catholic schools who are far more interested in schools like St Louis over schools like WSU.

What is the payout on the AAC's current tv deal?