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  • Shocker Scoring by difference in score

    I've always had the sense that Cotton just makes big plays at big times. This isn'tnecessarily the way to validate that sense or feeling, but it is somewhat of a beginning. Cotton seems to not look to score when WSU is slightly ahead. I was surprised by Coleby's numbers.

    In Conference games only
    Percent of points scored by player when lead is

    <=0 1--5 pts 6--10 pts 11+ pts
    Lufile 50.0% 2.9% 12.9% 34.3%
    Green 38.5% 0.0% 0.0% 61.5%
    Wessel 18.2% 18.2% 18.2% 45.5%
    Bush
    Early 53.7% 13.3% 13.3% 19.7%
    Carter 51.5% 14.6% 6.8% 27.2%
    Simon 16.7% 0.0% 0.0% 83.3%
    Wiggins 54.1% 4.1% 12.2% 29.7%
    Coleby 11.8% 11.8% 23.5% 52.9%
    VanVleet 47.7% 14.8% 9.7% 27.7%
    Baker 45.0% 19.9% 13.2% 21.9%
    Cotton 61.7% 3.3% 19.2% 15.8%
    Team 50.2% 11.7% 12.6% 25.5%
    "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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    Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
    "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

    A physician called into a radio show and said:
    "That's the definition of a stool sample."

  • #2
    Here are the analagous numbers for just the 13 OOC games

    <=0 1--5 6--10 11+
    Lufile 27.8% 27.8% 11.1% 33.3%
    Green 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 100.0%
    Wessel 38.9% 11.1% 16.7% 33.3%
    Bush 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 100.0%
    Early 39.4% 29.3% 12.0% 19.2%
    Carter 19.0% 31.0% 21.0% 29.0%
    Simon 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 100.0%
    Wiggins 24.2% 21.2% 15.2% 39.4%
    Coleby 20.8% 30.2% 18.9% 30.2%
    VanVleet 27.2% 31.3% 19.0% 22.4%
    Baker 31.0% 29.3% 14.1% 25.5%
    Cotton 35.7% 20.0% 12.9% 31.4%
    Team 30.0% 27.0% 14.8% 28.1%
    "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
    ---------------------------------------
    Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
    "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

    A physician called into a radio show and said:
    "That's the definition of a stool sample."

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    • #3
      One thing that shows is that we're tied or behind half the time. I would like that number to start trending down as we get closer to March.

      Am I interpreting that 50.2% number correctly?

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      • #4
        I'd be most interested in points per minute broken down this way. That'd be a clearer, normalized way to say if someone scores more when we're losing, close, or winning. I am lazy so I will do no more that submit the request.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DCShockerFan05 View Post
          I'd be most interested in points per minute broken down this way. That'd be a clearer, normalized way to say if someone scores more when we're losing, close, or winning. I am lazy so I will do no more that submit the request.
          That would give you "efficiency ofscoring"when behind,close,etc. This indicates that 61.7% of Cotton's points come when we're tied or behind; 3.3% when the lead is within 5, etc. Maybe what you're daying is, does he play more when we're behind than when we have a small lead. I'm not even sure how to calculate "per minute broken down this way."
          "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
          ---------------------------------------
          Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
          "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

          A physician called into a radio show and said:
          "That's the definition of a stool sample."

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          • #6
            You'd look at minutes played when the score is in a certain range, and points scored during those minutes. That's how you control for the fact that some guys only play when we're ahead.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DCShockerFan05 View Post
              You'd look at minutes played when the score is in a certain range, and points scored during those minutes. That's how you control for the fact that some guys only play when we're ahead.
              Yeah, that would be an massive undertaking. I think that this shows the guys with small numbers in the first three columns and greater numbers in the final column are as you described. The primary objective of me doing this was to get a feel for Mr. Cotton as compared to the other "regulars" who, quite obviously, play throughout the game, although maybe not so much in the fourth column. I'm personally belive that doing the minute-by-minute, score-by-score breakdown would show much, if anything, different, except, as I stated before, efficiency during certain periods.
              "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
              ---------------------------------------
              Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
              "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

              A physician called into a radio show and said:
              "That's the definition of a stool sample."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by im4wsu View Post
                Here are the analagous numbers for just the 13 OOC games

                <=0 1--5 6--10 11+
                Lufile 27.8% 27.8% 11.1% 33.3%
                Green 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 100.0%
                Wessel 38.9% 11.1% 16.7% 33.3%
                Bush 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 100.0%
                Early 39.4% 29.3% 12.0% 19.2%
                Carter 19.0% 31.0% 21.0% 29.0%
                Simon 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 100.0%
                Wiggins 24.2% 21.2% 15.2% 39.4%
                Coleby 20.8% 30.2% 18.9% 30.2%
                VanVleet 27.2% 31.3% 19.0% 22.4%
                Baker 31.0% 29.3% 14.1% 25.5%
                Cotton 35.7% 20.0% 12.9% 31.4%
                Team 30.0% 27.0% 14.8% 28.1%
                I KNEW Simon was a cherry picker, and this just PROVES it! :)
                Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                • #9
                  I am most glad that Carter is on our team.

                  Very valuable player.
                  "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it is about the future."

                  --Niels Bohr







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