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  • #16
    Originally posted by jocoshock View Post
    Only team on that list that truly concerns me is Florida, and that's only because I know the least about them. Of course, As long as Dougie is playing for CU, we can't overlook being Woodfoxed....specially if we played in St.Louis...
    If you look at the bracket, WSU wouldn't meet up with CU in St Louis. It would be in the regional finals in Memphis.

    Of course, CU would need to win back to back NCAA games to do that . . .

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    • #17
      Bill Self will make the call and make sure we arent in his region...prolly no chance of seeing each other unless its the title game...

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      • #18
        Remember last year's bracket for Gonzaga? Geesh, that was a gauntlet!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by OTR Shockfan View Post
          I might be in a minority here , but I am thinking IF we lose even one game we don't have a chance at anything better than a 2 seed, And depending on who that one loss is too,(hopefully not a bottom dweller) and when I could see it knocking us to a 3. If we loose 2 we better hope it's ISUB at their barn and then to whoever we meet in the Lou at the championship game. even then I think it would be very likely we end up a 3 , and maybe even a 4. guess time will tell if I should be in Colorado smoking weed to make this seem realistic. ??? thoughts ??
          The bracketologists are just waiting to knock us down. Even if our only lose is at ISU-b, get used to the idea of a 3 seed at best.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by SHOXMVC View Post
            The bracketologists are just waiting to knock us down. Even if our only lose is at ISU-b, get used to the idea of a 3 seed at best.
            The way the other Valley schools are letting us down this year, I think you are probably right. It is looking like we are not going to have that many top 50 and top 100 wins. I think if we remain undefeated they will give us a 1 seed, but any loss at all and we probably drop to a 3 seed and 2 losses probably drops us to a 5 or a 6 seed.

            Things could change if Indy St could manage to finish in the top 50 and if BYU, SLU and Tenn remain in the top 50. That would give us up to 6 possible top 50 wins. That would be a whole lot different than having just one top 50 win which is also very possible. Same thing with top 100 wins, if Alabama and Missouri St stay in the top 100 and Ill. St, UNI and DePaul move back into the top 100, we could finish with a possible 14 to 15 top 100 wins (including the top 50 wins) instead of 5 or 6 total.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Shocker1976 View Post
              Given your "no problem" with this incredibly difficult bracket; I suggest you take a look at the cakewalk brackets Lunardi proposes for KU and Syracuse. Hell even Arizona has a much easier pathway to the Final 4
              KU's 2-seed would be a likely healthy Michigan State.

              To call Syracuse's Lunardi bracket a cakewalk is just not true.


              You're going to have to beat good teams in the tournament to advance. I don't see a team in that projected regional that would give us fits match-up wise.
              The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by SHOXMVC View Post
                The bracketologists are just waiting to knock us down. Even if our only lose is at ISU-b, get used to the idea of a 3 seed at best.
                I think you are a great poster, but I don't know how we read bracketologists' minds....

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Shocker1976 View Post
                  Lunardi did the Shockers no favors with this bracket- IMO clearly the toughest bracket considering current rankings -

                  WSU (3)
                  Florida (4)
                  Louisville (7)
                  Okla State (10)
                  Creighton (20)
                  St Louis (21)
                  I agree. In fact, with NCAA clearing Florida's Chris Walker to play now, they're about to load up on an already loaded team. They are my pick to win the whole thing.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by OTR Shockfan View Post
                    guess time will tell if I should be in Colorado smoking weed to make this seem realistic. ??? thoughts ??
                    You should be doing that, anyway.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by wsushox1 View Post
                      KU's 2-seed would be a likely healthy Michigan State.

                      To call Syracuse's Lunardi bracket a cakewalk is just not true.


                      You're going to have to beat good teams in the tournament to advance. I don't see a team in that projected regional that would give us fits match-up wise.
                      If KU is going to be a #1 seed by jumping Florida and SDSU (teams that beat them during season play) would not Florida(or even SDSU) be the logical #2 seed in that bracket?

                      As for Syracuse's cake walk, highest ranked team they could play is Wisconsin (a mid tier Big 10 team currently ranked 13th and falling) and the #2 seed in the bracket is Michigan. While the Shockers could play one of three top ten ranked teams.

                      While I think the Shockers will make Sweet 16 or better, I just pray the Committee will bracket the tournament more fairly than Lunadi's proposed travesty! There is no justification for providing Arizona, Syracuse and Kansas easier pathways versus what Lunardi has proposed for the Shockers.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by molly jabali View Post
                        I think you are a great poster, but I don't know how we read bracketologists' minds....
                        I hear you, but grant me one fleeting moment when I THINK I have it figured out.

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                        • #27
                          I have to agree with Shoxmvc. One loss would unfortunately knock you back to a 3, I think. You guys do not get the respect that you deserve. It is going to take one more ff to wake these people up. That would be a very tough bracket though, but as you know from the teams that you beat last year, you have to beat good teams to advance anyway.

                          It looks like you started from right where you left off last year. Guts, tenacity, confidence and experience are ingredients required to get to the ff. You had all of them last year. Maybe a little short on tournament finals experience, but from what I am seeing this year, you will be a real nightmare for those in your bracket.

                          FWIW, we thought we would start right from where we left off, as well. Wrong. Losing Dieng and Siva was a greater loss of the guts, tenacity, confidence and experience than we wanted to admit. That is a great example of a great team being more than the sum of it's parts. We got some good players in this year, but had to take all the pieces apart and put them back together again. We think that we may have turned the corner towards getting back nearer that point. Tonight's game with Cincinnati will tell us something and we will go into Cinci and Memphis at the end of February. We win two or three of those games and we may be relevant again. Good luck to you guys.

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                          • #28
                            Lunardi brackets at this point of the season aren't worth much more than "hmm, that's interested" and roughly where you're falling. Matchups will change many times.

                            As for losses. The only way the Shox control their destiny is to run the table. Anything else and we fall to the mercy of what other teams are doing. There's a logjam at the top of the NCAA brackets, and our opponents aren't lighting any fires this season.

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                            • #29
                              Today, on College Hoops Live, Katz and a couple of other ESPN guys got some questions about Wichita State's seeding.

                              Starting at 1 ET, we’re chatting about the POY race, Saturday’s freshman extravaganza and anything else you’d like to discuss in the world of college basketball.


                              You can see what is asked on the first couple of pages (which is towards the end of the live chat), but Katz makes it pretty simple: a 1-seed if we win out through the semis or final in St. Louis or a 2 if we drop a regular season game.

                              I assume he's thinking that loss would either come to UNI or InSU, but I think it is pretty fair.

                              P.S. Eamonn Brennan chews someone out who complains about the Shockers' schedule, too, claiming that the win we have over the Bilikens is one of the best wins anyone has.

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                              • #30
                                You guys are funny...how many times has Lunardi even been close to right in terms of how the brackets play out??? I'm going to guess he gets less than 10% of the teams and where they play and what bracket they're in, right. Stop worrying so much!

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