Ron Baker media love and accolades thread

[SHOXAAC]

Or Joe Ragland

Never heard of him.

[jocoshock]

Ron Baker will go down as one of the great recruiting steals of the high school class of 2012. He had a late growth spurt to 6-foot-3 and, before Wichita State swooped in, was a no-star prospect from Scott City, Kan., with offers from Eastern Illinois, Arkansas-Little Rock and South Dakota State (where he might have become the next Nate Wolters). After playing a big role in the Shockers' Final Four run last season, Baker has emerged as a star as a sophomore, scoring with a remarkable level of efficiency. His Offensive Rating of 140.3 (or 1.403 PPP) is seventh-highest in the nation among players using at least 20 percent of their team's possessions, according to kenpom.com.

@SInow: College Hoops Power Rankings: 1. Arizona 2. Syracuse 3. Ohio St. 4. Wisconsin 5. Michigan St. | See the rest here: http://on.si.com/193uQ0h

[shox1989]

http://espn.go.com/ncb/notebook/_/pa...202/daily-word

Ron mentioned in this article for Most Significant Individual Achievement by Andy Katz

In the same article, Andy Katz also listed Wichita State as one of 8 teams that could challenge for the national championship.

[wufan]

Too bad Ron was in the class of 2011.

[jocoshock]

Too bad Ron was in the class of 2011.

That must be why he was a "steal"...

[im4wsu]

Ron Baker will go down as one of the great recruiting steals of the high school class of 2012. He had a late growth spurt to 6-foot-3 and, before Wichita State swooped in, was a no-star prospect from Scott City, Kan., with offers from Eastern Illinois, Arkansas-Little Rock and South Dakota State (where he might have become the next Nate Wolters). After playing a big role in the Shockers' Final Four run last season, Baker has emerged as a star as a sophomore, scoring with a remarkable level of efficiency. His Offensive Rating of 140.3 (or 1.403 PPP) is seventh-highest in the nation among players using at least 20 percent of their team's possessions, according to kenpom.com.

@SInow: College Hoops Power Rankings: 1. Arizona 2. Syracuse 3. Ohio St. 4. Wisconsin 5. Michigan St. | See the rest here: http://on.si.com/193uQ0h

Possessions for a team are usually calculated by formula [e.g, StatSheet uses FGAs - OffRebs + TOs + (.475*FTAs)]. Using the same formula for a player doesn't make sense to me, because two players would have the same number of possessions, but one would be taking a larger percentage of shots than the other:
Player A 10 FGA - 0 OR + 0 TO + .475*0 FT) = 10 possessions in which he took 5 shots
Player B 10 FGA - 5 OR + 0 TO + .475*0 FT) = 5 possessions in which he took 5 shots
If the team had 50 possessions, Player A would qualify for consideration under the 20% rule, but Player B would not.

I wonder why they don't just use a simple standard, 20% of 40 minutes = 8 minute per game.

[AdamCC]

Possessions for a team are usually calculated by formula [e.g, StatSheet uses FGAs - OffRebs + TOs + (.475*FTAs)]. Using the same formula for a player doesn't make sense to me, because two players would have the same number of possessions, but one would be taking a larger percentage of shots than the other:
Player A 10 FGA - 0 OR + 0 TO + .475*0 FT) = 10 possessions in which he took 5 shots
Player B 10 FGA - 5 OR + 0 TO + .475*0 FT) = 5 possessions in which he took 5 shots
If the team had 50 possessions, Player A would qualify for consideration under the 20% rule, but Player B would not.

I wonder why they don't just use a simple standard, 20% of 40 minutes = 8 minute per game.

Essentially what that means is that they END 20% or more of their team's possessions. So either by turning the ball over, or making or missing a shot. Offensive rebounds continue the possession.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Play Angry]

It's spreading: http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/preview?gameId=400500015

While coach Gregg Marshall has taken comfort in knowing there isn't much Rob Baker can't do, that has become a difficult lesson for Wichita State opponents.

[ShockerPrez]

I loved him on The Price is Right. What a ladies man he was.

I think he will be as good as Jamie Perez

[WSUwatcher]

That must be why he was a "steal"...

Yes, the Shocks "robbed the cradle," as the saying goes, getting him a year early -- all the other big boys thought he was part of the class of 2012, when in reality he was by then incubating in Dr. Marshall's laboratory, waiting to spring forth at exactly the right moment to help lead WSU to the Final Four.

[Shockeriffic]

Possessions for a team are usually calculated by formula [e.g, StatSheet uses FGAs - OffRebs + TOs + (.475*FTAs)]. Using the same formula for a player doesn't make sense to me, because two players would have the same number of possessions, but one would be taking a larger percentage of shots than the other:
Player A 10 FGA - 0 OR + 0 TO + .475*0 FT) = 10 possessions in which he took 5 shots
Player B 10 FGA - 5 OR + 0 TO + .475*0 FT) = 5 possessions in which he took 5 shots
If the team had 50 possessions, Player A would qualify for consideration under the 20% rule, but Player B would not.

I wonder why they don't just use a simple standard, 20% of 40 minutes = 8 minute per game.

That's not how individual possessions are calculated. Individual possessions are scoring possessions + missed FG part + missed FT part + turnovers. Scoring possessions (made shots) and turnovers are simple. Missed field goals and free throws get messy and the offensive rebounding of the team has to be taken into account. Anyone who wants to go into this in great detail should read Basketball on Paper by Dean Oliver.

[60Shock]

You can't buy the great publicity and comments the Shockers and our players (especially Baker) are getting now.

[jocoshock]

College Basketball Talk's Top 20 Most Improved Players

Could have sworn I saw this before, thus probably posted before, but it has been a slow week..

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/09/college-basketball-talks-top-20-most-improved-players/

Ron Baker, Wichita State: Ron Baker was a key role player for the Shockers last season. He’s turned into arguably their best player this year, a 6-foot-4 combo-guard averaging 15.3 points, 4.6 boards and 3.6 assists. Scouts that go to watch Cleanthony Early leave raving about Baker.

[RoyalShock]

Predicting Biggest 2014 NBA Draft Sleepers

It is from BleacherReport, but I guess their NBA stuff is supposed to be better than the rest of the site.

[jocoshock]

Predicting Biggest 2014 NBA Draft Sleepers

It is from BleacherReport, but I guess their NBA stuff is supposed to be better than the rest of the site.

It that comes to pass, we had better make the most of him this year. Will leave a huge hole in the lineup...