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  • Originally posted by im4wsu View Post
    Home 15-2
    Away 2-7
    Neutral 3-3
    Even better, those two road wins are TCU and TTU.

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    • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
      Only in the last week did we move to #4 in Pomeroy. Sagarin has us at 12. Before the last game of the MVC tournament, there were as many metrics which said we weren't a 1-seed as those that did.

      Fortunately, no metric is used to directly determine seeds.

      And for the record, since it was brought up in this topic, Lunardi has always been a mediocre bracketologist. Having a bigger arena to play in doesn't make you a better team. A couple of years ago someone did a historical ranking of bracketologists by accuracy. Lunardi was right in the middle. I think it included somewhere around 70-80 different ones. If he were a basketball team, he'd finish around fifth in the Valley and might get an invite to the CIT.
      True, but fortunately this is he time of the year the metrics actually count for anything at all. And, of course, the eye test is still extremely valuable to a lot of folks. It's all kind of a mute point because the Shocks are going to be a #1 seed IMO. If that happens, and I think it would be a huge surprise if it does not, then the folks who actually make any difference will have decided the Shocks were deserving of a No. 1 seed. Everything else just becomes background noise.

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      • Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post
        What is the SOS of the games Team A and Team B actually won? Where were those games played?
        If Team B happened to have better wins, then they would have to have a boatload more bad losses in order to finish with fewer total wins against an easier schedule.

        As for where the games were played, road/home makes a little difference, but I'm not talking about teams with an SOS difference of 3 spots. I said a "significantly harder schedule". My real life examples of teams from the Big East were all cases where they had SOS's of 50, 100, or even 150 spots better than the MVC teams I compared them to. No home/road scheduling imbalances would overcome that.

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        • Originally posted by HenryMuto View Post
          Not sure how much that means I have beat Lunardi every year since they started keeping track on the bracket matrix in 2006 and most years handily that makes 7 years in a row from 2006-2012 before I faltered and he tied me last year (though I still got all 68 teams right even good ole Middle Tennessee)

          I also beat Jerry Palm every year from 2006-2013 except 2009 when he beat me by 5 pts.

          In 2006 I actually would have been #1 overall and in 2007 #2 overall (not saying much I guess only 10-20 people were involved back then but they were all the "experts" from TV and blogs"
          Have you submitted to bracket matrix in the past?

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          • Originally posted by HenryMuto View Post
            Joe Lunardi says that despite Villanova's loss to (gulp) Seton Hall, Nova would still be a No. 1 seed for the NCAA…
            If KU wins the Big 12 Tournament I think they will be in serious contention for the 4th #1 seed. Same can be said for Michigan if they win the B1G Tournament. Virginia and Creighton could also move in front of Villanova if they win their Tournament Championships.

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            • Originally posted by Play Angry View Post
              Tulsa beating Tulane 65-44 in the CUSA quarterfinals.
              Final: Tulsa 70 - Tulane 49. Danny Manning has done a good job with his Tulsa team this year. They have turned out to be a solid win for us.

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              • Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                Final: Tulsa 70 - Tulane 49. Danny Manning has done a good job with his Tulsa team this year. They have turned out to be a solid win for us.
                Agreed- I didn't see that turnaround coming early in the year, they looked so lost. Would be fun if they could run the table in the CUSA Tournament and get a bid.

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                • Earlier Big Ten commentators said something along the lines of "If Thad Matta spent as much time coaching his team as he does yelling at the refs they'd actually be beating the 12th seeded Purdue team" (OSU was down 2 or 4 at the time)

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                  • Louisville destroying Rutgers 58-16 just before the half. How did Rutgers win 12 games this year?

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                    • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
                      Louisville destroying Rutgers 58-16 just before the half. How did Rutgers win 12 games this year?
                      Lot's of blowouts going on right now.

                      'Ville over 'Gers
                      Zona pummeling Utah
                      SDSU destroying Utah State
                      Utah Valley over TX-PanAm
                      UCSB clobbering Cal-Poly

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                      • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
                        Lot's of blowouts going on right now.

                        'Ville over 'Gers
                        Zona pummeling Utah
                        SDSU destroying Utah State
                        Utah Valley blasting TX-PanAm
                        UCSB clobbering Cal-Poly
                        Pitt is pretty much demolishing Wake Forest.

                        You used "over" twice so I changed Utah Valley to blasting TX-PanAm. :playful:
                        Last edited by 1972Shocker; March 13, 2014, 04:49 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
                          Louisville destroying Rutgers 58-16 just before the half. How did Rutgers win 12 games this year?
                          They played a bunch of patsies in the non-con, same as, say, Bradley.

                          Team A 12-20 RPI 264 SOS 176 NCSOS 331
                          Team B 12-20 RPI 193 SOS 70 NCSOS 309

                          But then, it's not like we're comparing teams that are 3 apart in the RPI and SOS. Team B's RPI is 71! spots higher because they lost to a bunch of good teams in conference instead of losing to a bunch of mediocre teams.

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                          • Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                            Pitt is pretty much demolishing Wake Forest.

                            You used "over" twice so I changed Utah Valley to basting TX-PanAm. :playful:
                            Good catch on both points!

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                            • I caught a few minutes of the KU-OSU game, but it was enough time to see one of Smart's flops. For anyone watching the game, how have they looked overall? OSU wasn't looking very scary to me.

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                              • So far today in the Big Ten Tournament, #9 Illinois beats #8 Indiana 64-54 and #5 Ohio State hangs on to beat #12 Purdue 63-61

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