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  • Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown View Post
    I took it as a comparison of ROI.

    The Valley has been very competitive for many years on 1/2 to 1/3 the budget of many of the BCS programs, yet the BCS programs don't get double the production.

    Can you imagine what MSU, IlSU, and Bradley could be with the budgets of Arizona State, Oregon, Washington, or Oregon State?
    Yes, I can imagine what they'd do. Not any more than what AZ St, Oregon, and so forth are doing most likely. Just because one spends twice as much doesn't mean they'll be twice as good. What the spending does do is make it more likely/possible that they will be more successful/competitive. I'd start with the other 8 Valley schools having as much success on the hardwood as the lowest budget school, Indiana St.

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    • Originally posted by Play Angry View Post
      An interesting list of PAC-12 coaching salaries.

      1. Tad Boyle's comp is shockingly low (this is an April article, he may have received a raise in the offseason)

      2. HCGM would be the 3rd or 4th highest paid coach in the league at his current WSU salary, depending on how you interpret his contract. He would trail only UCLA (Alford) and Arizona (Miller).
      Tad did get a raise and bought a pretty nice house: http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_236376...yle-700k-raise
      "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
      -John Wooden

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      • Cost of living adjustments really skew those numbers

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        • Because I am slightly bored and don't have much else to do, there are some games tonight that will impact our RPI.

          While not direct opponents, there are six games tonight and all six have a secondary opponent in our RPI calculation:

          Lipscomb (they won)
          Manhattan (they won)
          Iona (they won)
          Niagara (they won)
          Vermont ( they lost)
          Milwaukee (they lost, and this probably hurts the most as they also played Loyola, DePaul, Davidson, Northern Iowa and Bradley)



          Probably just jinxed them all.
          Last edited by WuShock Reaper; January 24, 2014, 11:10 PM.

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          • Originally posted by shoxlax View Post
            Cost of living adjustments really skew those numbers
            When you get into the high six and seven figure incomes, cost of living has a much smaller impact on lifestyle.
            There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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            • Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
              When you get into the high six and seven figure incomes, cost of living has a much smaller impact on lifestyle.
              What if you're WELL into the 7 figures?

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              • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                What if you're WELL into the 7 figures?
                I think you know the answer to this question. Could be wrong though.
                The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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                • Harvard recently completed an interesting and seemingly counter intuitive study on the income gap and the odds of raising from poor to rich. To distill the study, researchers used a ladder analogy and found:

                  * Everyone regardless of party acknowledges the income gap problem, we (the powers that be who represent us) just can't agree on the best course of action resolve the situation.

                  * The income gap disparity is the largest in modern historical times.

                  * For today's youth, the odds of climbing or falling off the ladder is the same as it has always been.

                  * The space between the rungs on the ladder are further apart.

                  What this really means is that it is time for them to start peeling the onion in an attempt to answer the why.

                  My personal thoughts:
                  As for income levels, being a Dave Ramsey follower and having read "The Millionaire Next Door" it is a fact that if you are smart and avoid debt, except for a 15 year fixed mortgage which has a monthly payment of less than 1/4 your monthly income, have an emergency fund of 3-6 months of expenditures in the bank, put 15% into retirement (IRA, Mutual Funds, etc.), tithe, and give an extra 5% you will be fine rather you make $20,000 or $200,000 or even $2,000,000 you will be just fine.

                  My point is that if you are careless and place emotion over intelligence (remember "i" over "e") you will dig yourself a hole or place yourself where you are one uh-oh away from serious financial trouble.

                  Stay Debt Free!

                  Go Shocks!!
                  Last edited by DUShock; January 25, 2014, 09:20 AM. Reason: correct a typo
                  “Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones

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                  • OT- a big reason for that gap is the loss of manufacturing to other countries. Building appliances, sewing clothes, building cars, building airplanes, etc was an honest way to make a decent living. But in the Wal-Mart world of low price wins, cheap manufacturing rules, and that doesnt happen in the US.

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                    • Dave Ramsey is an adult. Most are not.

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                      • Hey whats the use of living in the USA if I can't have something now and pay for it later? Oh yeah thats why we are where we are.

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                        • Carnage ahead in the top 10 today. All times CST.


                          #10 Iowa @ Northwestern, 11 AM on BTN
                          #2 Syracuse @ Miami, 12 PM on CBS
                          #4 Villanova @ Marquette, 1 PM on FS1
                          Tennessee @ #6 Florida, 3 PM on ESPN
                          Loyola vs. Northern Iowa, 3 PM on ESPN3
                          Western Kentucky @ Louisiana Lafayette, 3 PM on ESPN2
                          William & Mary @ Drexel, 3 PM
                          NC Central @ Coppin State, 3 PM
                          Tulsa vs. UAB, 3 PM
                          Oral Roberts vs. Northwestern State, 3:30 PM
                          #9 Wisconsin @ Purdue, 4 PM on BTN
                          DePaul @ Seton Hall, 5 PM on CBS Sports
                          Indiana State vs. Illinois State, 5 PM
                          #3 Michigan State vs. #21 Michigan, 6 PM on ESPN
                          Davidson vs. Georgia Southern, 6 PM
                          Missouri State vs. Southern Illinois, 7 PM on ESPN3
                          Alabama vs. LSU, 7 PM on ESPN2
                          Tennessee State vs. Morehead State, 7:30 PM
                          #8 Kansas @ TCU, 8 PM on ESPNU
                          BYU @ Gonzaga, 9 PM on ESPN2
                          #7 San Diego State @ Utah State, 10 PM on ESPNU

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                          • And @Play Angry: what exactly does your post have to do with the income gap?

                            Thanks for taking time to compile the list of games and getting us back on topic.

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                            • So, I'm just wondering if this thread ought to be renamed to 'Impacts, effects and strategies for reducing income inequality' or should we keep it as 'games of interest'? I want to know about the games of interest today. I am interested in income inequality and I agree with the other posters that it's a problem, but it somehow does not appear to be on topic for this thread.

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                              • Sorry, for some reason I didn't see Shocker1972's post prior to me posting, but I do agree with his sentiments.

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