Games of interest

[Play Angry]

GOI for Monday 1/13/14 (all times CST):

NC Central @ Bethune Cookman, 6:30 PM
Tennessee State @ UT-Martin, 7:30 PM
#2 Syracuse @ BC, 8 PM on ESPNU
#8 Iowa State vs. #15 Kansas, 8 PM on ESPN



From a poll standpoint, we should probably root for Kansas tonight. Can't do it though- Go Cyclones and then I'll hope they lose @ Texas this weekend.

[Cdizzle]

Cdizzle, I already addressed that in post #1663.

I reject your premise that a home loss to a team with an RPI of 140 is not a bad loss.

I think the moral of this story is that I'm glad we beat Tennessee, but it would be foolish to expect any SOS help from them at this point.

[WuDrWu]

Here is weekly tracking of Texas A&M RealTime RPI and SOS (1/6 was before their win over Arkansas
RPI RPIRank SOS SOS Rank
6-Jan 0.4917 177 0.472 242
30-Dec 0.5076 155 0.4817 215
23-Dec 0.5002 172 0.4718 240


These are the types of numbers I had casually been aware of, and I watched some of their game against Rice and both teams, to my eyes, were awful.

I am happy to admit that any bcs type program that looks that bad, plays a 200+ rpi schedule and loses to North Texas at home, gets an extra "exageration" tacked on. Teams like WSU aren't often labeled "great" when they are 17-0 and ranked in the top 5, so, personally, I'll be a little extra in the opposite direction.

Not that anyone cares.

[jdmee]

I would let you call the #177 team in the country "butt-stanky", but you have to ignore Texas A&M's last 2 games (wins over top 100 opponents) in order to rank them there. Using 177 in this argument means you aren't being intelectually honest.

I guess they aren't necessarily "butt-stanky" or "AWFUL", but can we agree that they would be a Thursday night team in the MVC?

[im4wsu]

Using a number that was the perception of the A&M team prior to the Tennessee game actually seems more honest. It should include the Arkansas win, which would put the RPI somewhere probably halfway between the 177 and 114 numbers being thrown around.

From StatSheet, I believe the dates shown are for each game Texas A&M has played, so this shows RPI 160 after the Arkansas game and 114 after the Tennessee game

Date	RPI Rank	RPI	SOS Rank	SOS
11-Jan	114	0.5285	184	0.4956
8-Jan	160	0.5055	218	0.4817
4-Jan	181	0.4894	252	0.4688
31-Dec	194	0.4848	237	0.4725
21-Dec	166	0.4991	270	0.4603
14-Dec	154	0.5028	307	0.4351
4-Dec	145	0.5117	260	0.4565
30-Nov	170	0.4984	262	0.4502
29-Nov	158	0.5064	301	0.4143
26-Nov	142	0.5169	334	0.3559
24-Nov	165	0.5038	330	0.3384
19-Nov	277	0.4167	345	0.2222
15-Nov	301	0.3333	333	0.1111

[Play Angry]

GOI for Monday 1/13/14 (all times CST):

NC Central @ Bethune Cookman, 6:30 PM
Tennessee State @ UT-Martin, 7:30 PM
#2 Syracuse @ BC, 8 PM on ESPNU
#8 Iowa State vs. #15 Kansas, 8 PM on ESPN



From a poll standpoint, we should probably root for Kansas tonight. Can't do it though- Go Cyclones and then I'll hope they lose @ Texas this weekend.

QFNP

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

I would let you call the #177 team in the country "butt-stanky", but you have to ignore Texas A&M's last 2 games (wins over top 100 opponents) in order to rank them there. Using 177 in this argument means you aren't being intelectually honest.

If numbers were all that mattered, why play the game?

As someone who has watched A&M in person (At Toyota Center in Houston v. Oklahoma), I can tell you Texas A&M is awful. They don't play smart, they don't play together, and their RPI is definitely inflated.

Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then.

[Play Angry]

Thank goodness we didn't get saddled with that rumored H/H with A&M, eh?

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

I guess they aren't necessarily "butt-stanky" or "AWFUL", but can we agree that they would be a Thursday night team in the MVC?

Wink wink. :-)

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

From StatSheet, I believe the dates shown are for each game Texas A&M has played, so this shows RPI 160 after the Arkansas game and 114 after the Tennessee ame

Realtimerpi had A&M at 140-something prior to updating to show the Tennessee game. Sites vary. Not really sure why as the RPI is a simple formula.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

I reject your premise that a home loss to a team with an RPI of 140 is not a bad loss.

I never said it wasn't a "bad loss". Only argued that calling it a "colossal failure" was quite the exageration. After the doc's statement that Marquette would be a "MVC Thursday night team", I was simply jumping on a theme of exageration on his part.

This has become silly. I'm ready to move on.

[Cdizzle]

I don't think losing to a team 100 spots lower than you in the RPI, at home, is too far off from a colossal failure.

[_kai_]

I'd just like to point out something, but when you dumb it down far enough, grown men are arguing about who's definition of the word terrible is correct in describing the quality of a college basketball team. Think about that. Not arguing about who is better, who is even terrible, you are bickering over who's definition of terrible is correct and who's isn't.

No one is going to win. Ever. It is an unwinnable battle.

[The Mad Hatter]

I'd just like to point out something, but when you dumb it down far enough, grown men are arguing about who's definition of the word terrible is correct in describing the quality of a college basketball team. Think about that. Not arguing about who is better, who is even terrible, you are bickering over who's definition of terrible is correct and who's isn't.

No one is going to win. Ever. It is an unwinnable battle.

I contest your definition of the word unwinnable.

[_kai_]

I contest your definition of the word unwinnable.

*salutes* well played.