Toure Payday . . .

[Play Angry]

Warriors and Bulls were reported to be the top two suitors at the end of May if Toure became unrestricted. I hope one of them steps up and gives him a guaranteed contract so that his time in the summer league can be a little less stressful.

Cle fell into a nice situation where he has a chance to grab serious minutes. I hope Toure finds the same opportunity.

[ShockTalk]

Bit of an understatement. If you check out the top 20 all time lists he appears on many.

Yes, he appears in many and he was a very fine all around player. However, the lists alone can be a little misleading. Toure earned his minutes, but had the advantage of playing a lot of games and a lot of minutes over a full 4 year career. For example, he was a very good assist man and is #1 on the Shocker all time list. However, he played in 139 games compared to #2 Armstrong who had only one less assist in 78 games (freshman couldn't play varsity during that time). Toure is #11 in all time points, but did you realize Durley was #15. Number of games played.

You also won't see Toure in many, if any, % categories. This isn't meant to say Murry was not a very good and very important player.

[Dave Stalwart]

Does it mean anything that Toure is not listed on the Knicks summer league roster?

http://www.nba.com/knicks/knicks-announce-las-vegas-summer-league-roster

[wufan]

Does it mean anything that Toure is not listed on the Knicks summer league roster?

http://www.nba.com/knicks/knicks-ann...-league-roster

No. He's a free agent right now.

[wusphlash]

Shocker character

http://www.nba.com/knicks/murry-and-tylers-surprise-visit

[wsushox1]

Knicks want to re-sign Murry via WSJ reporter on twitter.

[Kung Wu]

In a couple years when they draft Baker and Van Vleet, you may as well rename 'em to the New York Knickershockers.

[Signman]

Don't know if this has been posted here but there is a nice connection to the Knicks and WSU. The NBA Champion Knickerbockers in 1970 had two Wichita State Alumni on the roster.

Roster
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No. Player Pos Ht Wt Birth Date Exp College
12 Dick Barnett SG 6-4 190 October 2, 1936 9 Tennessee State University
17 Nate Bowman C 6-10 230 March 19, 1943 3 Wichita State University
24 Bill Bradley SF 6-5 205 July 28, 1943 2 Princeton University
22 Dave DeBusschere PF 6-6 220 October 16, 1940 7 University of Detroit Mercy
10 Walt Frazier PG 6-4 200 March 29, 1945 2 Southern Illinois University
20 Bill Hosket PF 6-8 225 December 20, 1946 1 Ohio State University
5 Don May SF 6-4 200 January 3, 1946 1 University of Dayton
19 Willis Reed C 6-9 235 June 25, 1942 5 Grambling State University
6 Mike Riordan SG 6-4 200 July 9, 1945 1 Providence College
33 Cazzie Russell SF 6-5 218 June 7, 1944 3 University of Michigan
9 Dave Stallworth SF 6-7 200 December 20, 1941 2 Wichita State University
16 John Warren SG 6-3 180 July 7, 1947 R St. John's University

[Kung Wu]

Don't know if this has been posted here but there is a nice connection to the Knicks and WSU. The NBA Champion Knickerbockers in 1970 had two Wichita State Alumni on the roster.

Roster
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No. Player Pos Ht Wt Birth Date Exp College
12 Dick Barnett SG 6-4 190 October 2, 1936 9 Tennessee State University
17 Nate Bowman C 6-10 230 March 19, 1943 3 Wichita State University
24 Bill Bradley SF 6-5 205 July 28, 1943 2 Princeton University
22 Dave DeBusschere PF 6-6 220 October 16, 1940 7 University of Detroit Mercy
10 Walt Frazier PG 6-4 200 March 29, 1945 2 Southern Illinois University
20 Bill Hosket PF 6-8 225 December 20, 1946 1 Ohio State University
5 Don May SF 6-4 200 January 3, 1946 1 University of Dayton
19 Willis Reed C 6-9 235 June 25, 1942 5 Grambling State University
6 Mike Riordan SG 6-4 200 July 9, 1945 1 Providence College
33 Cazzie Russell SF 6-5 218 June 7, 1944 3 University of Michigan
9 Dave Stallworth SF 6-7 200 December 20, 1941 2 Wichita State University
16 John Warren SG 6-3 180 July 7, 1947 R St. John's University

Pretty sweet.

The Knicks roots go deep. Here is Marshall's coaching tree as it relates to the Knicks:

http://shockernet.net/forum/showthread.php?16263-Top-144-countdown&p=420317&viewfull=1#post420317

[wufan]

Plus McDaniel, Murry, and Early.

[Aargh]

It sure couldn't hurt WSU's east coast exposure to have two young players on the Knicks roster.

[im4wsu]

Don't know if this has been posted here but there is a nice connection to the Knicks and WSU. The NBA Champion Knickerbockers in 1970 had two Wichita State Alumni on the roster.

Roster
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No. Player Pos Ht Wt Birth Date Exp College
12 Dick Barnett SG 6-4 190 October 2, 1936 9 Tennessee State University
17 Nate Bowman C 6-10 230 March 19, 1943 3 Wichita State University
24 Bill Bradley SF 6-5 205 July 28, 1943 2 Princeton University
22 Dave DeBusschere PF 6-6 220 October 16, 1940 7 University of Detroit Mercy
10 Walt Frazier PG 6-4 200 March 29, 1945 2 Southern Illinois University
20 Bill Hosket PF 6-8 225 December 20, 1946 1 Ohio State University
5 Don May SF 6-4 200 January 3, 1946 1 University of Dayton
19 Willis Reed C 6-9 235 June 25, 1942 5 Grambling State University
6 Mike Riordan SG 6-4 200 July 9, 1945 1 Providence College
33 Cazzie Russell SF 6-5 218 June 7, 1944 3 University of Michigan
9 Dave Stallworth SF 6-7 200 December 20, 1941 2 Wichita State University
16 John Warren SG 6-3 180 July 7, 1947 R St. John's University

And Phil Jackson sat out this season, his 3rd with the Knicks, with a back injury.

[Play Angry]

Utah interested in signing Toure, but he is holding out for an offer from Miami first.

I actually think Utah might be a better fit, but I can understand why a 24 year old would prefer south Florida.

[pinstripers]

Florida has no state income tax, yes?

[Play Angry]

Si, but something tells me that's not his #1 motive :)