Derail Green

[SubGod22]

I'm not sure Nick can get to 25 a game. At the two wing spots, there are 80 minutes available and sharing those 80 will be Early, Cotton, Wessel, Baker and perhaps Green along with Wiggins. I think it's safe to say that Early, Baker and Cotton are going to play 20+ per game. A few of those minutes could come at PF (Early) or PG (Baker, Cotton), but there's going to be a battle for all remaining minutes. And lets not forget that Wessel started last season as a starter. Just based off of last season and hoping for improvement, I think Nick MAY get around the 12-15 range.

[Dan]

It seems there's always unexpected injuries throughout the season. Everyone has to ready to have their time in the sun.

[SubGod22]

It seems there's always unexpected injuries throughout the season. Everyone has to ready to have their time in the sun.

Can you imagine how many fewer minutes Wiggins would have had last year had Baker and Wessel not missed basically the entire season?

All things being equal, which is all we can do at this point, tell me that Wiggins won't be a 20+ mpg guy unless we once again have multiple injury issues with our wings. I'd love to see Wiggins get it, and step up and be the guy we'd all hoped, but I don't see him beating out the others for enough minutes to average that many minutes.

Assuming Early, Baker and Cotton each play 20 on the wing, and additional elsewhere, that still only leaves 20 minutes to be divided up between Wessel, Wiggins and Green. There could be more minutes available IF Bowles doesn't come along and Baker/Cotton play more PG than would be expected, but that still doesn't open up a ton of time and I have to believe that Wessel is going to get minutes. He's tougher than Wiggins and still a good outside shooter.

[GoShockers89]

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[shockmonster]

I won't count Nick out and minutes are unpredictable. No doubt that Nick has the talent to do it but he has to play physical. I do agree that if NW doesn't play physical, when considered on an equal basis with Green, DG will be the pick for minutes.

[Dan]

Also keep in mind, Wessel was the early starter because Cotton started the season banged up.

[Ricardo del Rio]

At the games I saw him play, he seemed more comfortable floating around the perimeter than banging it up inside. He wasn't super aggressive with the ball and, while he had a nice mid range jump shot, I felt like he had the size and skills to go to the hoop and hammer it home, but he didn't seem comfortable doing that. Granted, i only saw 2 games, but I felt like he was the same player both games. I'm hoping he's developed a slashing aspect to his game, it will take him far.

Derail definitely does not have a Ryan Martin attitude. Yesterday he played like a gentle giant on the perimeter. Yesterday was just a snapshot. Don't read too much into it.

[SubGod22]

Also keep in mind, Wessel was the early starter because Cotton started the season banged up.

But he was obviously ahead of Wiggins. And he played well when in. It was a short sample due to injury, but he was the teams leading 3pt shooter and we can all agree that he's tougher, more physical, than Wiggins. Nick has to overcome that.

And like I've said, I thought he showed improvement in areas late last season. He appeared to be hitting the glass a bit and trying to play D. Could still use work there. But he has to make those hustle plays. Wessel will throw himself all over the court for the team. Will Nick?

[Rlh04d]

But he was obviously ahead of Wiggins. And he played well when in. It was a short sample due to injury, but he was the teams leading 3pt shooter and we can all agree that he's tougher, more physical, than Wiggins. Nick has to overcome that.

And like I've said, I thought he showed improvement in areas late last season. He appeared to be hitting the glass a bit and trying to play D. Could still use work there. But he has to make those hustle plays. Wessel will throw himself all over the court for the team. Will Nick?

Will he make the effort is definitely the question. I think it is possible that Wiggins will be the best offensive option at the 2/3. But will he put the effort in elsewhere?

You're right about the difficulty of breaking up the 80 minutes at the wing spots. I think Wiggins probably gets some time at the 4 in smaller lineups as well, but yeah. I can't come up with a non-injury way to get him more than 20 minutes.

[Dave Stalwart]

Maybe the best comparison for Nick is actually David Kyles. There's a lot there. Plays the 2/3, streaky offense that is so good some nights you can't believe it, but other nights not so much, great athleticism, and then decent but not showstopping defense like a Cotton or Ben Smith.

Derail, like I think someone has already said, might wind up being more comparable to Early when all is said and done

[Aargh]

Green may have to wait until his Sr year to get past the 15-minute mark. Give a player more rings than he has fingers and they're usully willing to wait a while to be the showcased player. I doubt he was expecting to be a Fr on a team that had just made it to the F4.

That F4 is going to be a major wake-up call to all the first-year players this year.

[Steeleshocker]

Green may have to wait until his Sr year to get past the 15-minute mark. Give a player more rings than he has fingers and they're usully willing to wait a while to be the showcased player. I doubt he was expecting to be a Fr on a team that had just made it to the F4.

That F4 is going to be a major wake-up call to all the first-year players this year.

I think the first real practice is the wakeup call to the first year players.

[Zardoz]

I think the first real practice is the wakeup call to the first year players.

Except that Green already has a year of practice as a RS.

[Steeleshocker]

Except that Green already has a year of practice as a RS.

True, I'm thinking about the rest of the guys. I don't consider Green a first year player.