Bryant Allen kicked off team at isur

[Kung Wu]

Your facts must be missing a few pieces because the person who told me about the incident was directly confronted by Muller and this person has never told me something that wasn't true in the past so I trust what they told me.

Well my facts are third hand, so if your facts come from someone "directly confronted" I'll roll with yours! :)

[Aargh]

At 3:12 AM Allen ran a top sign on campus. Campus cops pulled him over and found he had a suspended license. Then they found the pot. Not only did he get written up for possession, but also with a "delivery" violation. I don't know what that means in Illinois, but it doesn't sound good.

IlSU fans are praising Muller for encouraging Allen to finish up his education, while speculating that his scholarship can now go to Deontae Hawkins. If you want to call your coach a hero for encouraging a kid in trouble to finish his education, maybe that coach should let the kid have his scholarship until the trial.

[WSUwatcher]

I remember Allen coming into Koch I think two years ago and just being the biggest tool. At one point we were chanting air ball and he was doing a "raise the roof" type hand signal. After one of his teammates scored he sushed the crowd. I think the student section at the time was about to storm the court to shut him up.

No problem with any of that in my book. I know lots of coaches prefer for their guys to stay focused, but I personally like that sort of "us against the crowd" attitude. If players can be expected to take it while they're actually trying to perform, then the students dishing it out need to man up and be willing to take it too when a guy sends it back.

[shocker1]

They are going to miss this guy a lot more than their fans are willing to admit. You can't over exaggerate how helpful an experienced point guard can be.

[tropicalshox]

This motivated me to drop in on their board for the first time in a few weeks. When I saw a mention of McIntosh maybe being a one and done, I wondered why I was reading this garbage.

[im4wsu]

This motivated me to drop in on their board for the first time in a few weeks. When I saw a mention of McIntosh maybe being a one and done, I wondered why I was reading this garbage.

Because they think he is that good, or because he will get tired of the $@#*?

[The Mad Hatter]

Because they think he is that good, or because he will get tired of the $@#*?

Technically, under Muller, the vast majority of ISU-R players have been one and done.

[newshock1234]

No She didnt

[jdshock]

No problem with any of that in my book. I know lots of coaches prefer for their guys to stay focused, but I personally like that sort of "us against the crowd" attitude. If players can be expected to take it while they're actually trying to perform, then the students dishing it out need to man up and be willing to take it too when a guy sends it back.

That's a fair point, but I prefer our players as they are. I like them to be confident and have a swagger, but I think there is a difference between that and what Marshall Henderson was famous for. And I think what Bryant Allen did was much closer to that. Me personally, I thought people like Marshall Henderson just seemed stoopid.

[another shocker]

Your facts must be missing a few pieces because the person who told me about the incident was directly confronted by Muller and this person has never told me something that wasn't true in the past so I trust what they told me.

it's like muller expected the wichita state of the 90's to show up.. just roll over. when they didn't, he spazzed out. but then again, some 90's shocker graduates here also expect that kind of thing, to be fair. that's their only frame of reference also.

[Shockeriffic]

They are going to miss this guy a lot more than their fans are willing to admit. You can't over exaggerate how helpful an experienced point guard can be.

Being six feet tall doesn't automatically make someone a point guard.

[InWuWeTrust]

Your facts must be missing a few pieces because the person who told me about the incident was directly confronted by Muller and this person has never told me something that wasn't true in the past so I trust what they told me.

I was there and have video of it.. there is plenty of blame to go around. and no, I won't share the video.