Players leaving and players coming in.

[pinstripers]

Like rrshock mentioned earlier, I believe there are tighter restrictions on transferring within conferences. I believe he said you also lose a year of eligibility when doing so. Can anybody confirm this? I doubt Jake transfers to a Northern Iowa where he completely loses his junior year.

Anyways, this sucks. Good luck to Jake.

it's that way in every conference, not just the Valley

[SubGod22]

I've only seen one exception about in conference transfers and that is when Baylor went through the whole murder/cover up thing. Those guys were allowed to transfer anywhere, including inside the XII, with no punishments. I think the same may have been true for the football players at Penn State. But those are extreme circumstances. This isn't. He'll end up at a Dakota and finish his time there with a fine career.

[tropicalshox]

4.2 INTRA-CONFERENCE TRANSFER
A student-athlete who has accepted or received an athletic scholarship award at a member institution of the MVC or who has participated in any intercollegiate contest as a member of that institution's team, shall be allowed to transfer to another member institution of the MVC with the following stipulations:
4.2.1 Participation in Student-Athlete's Sport. The student-athlete may not participate in the particular sport for a two (2)-year period from the official date of transfer.
4.2.2 Participation in Any Sport. The student-athlete may not participate in any other MVC sport for a one (1)-year period from the official date of transfer.
4.2.3 4-2-4 Transfer. The intra-conference transfer rule shall apply to a student-athlete who transfers from a Conference member institution to a two-year college and then to a certifying Conference member institution.
4.2.4 Waiver of Intra-Conference Transfer Rule. Extenuating circumstances may warrant consideration of a waiver of the intra-conference transfer rule. Such circumstances might include:
4.2.4.1 A student-athlete who is not receiving athletically related aid at one (1) institution but who can transfer to another institution
and receive athletically related aid.
4.2.4.2 A student-athlete whose athletically related financial aid is eliminated at one (1) institution and who wishes to attend another Conference member institution and receive athletically related financial aid.
4.2.5 Waiver Procedure. The following procedures shall be employed by member institutions' Directors of Athletics regarding student-athlete intra-conference transfer requests:
4.2.5.1 All NCAA rules regarding transfer remain in force (i.e. permission to contact, one-year exception restrictions).
4.2.5.2 If a student-athlete wishes to pursue an intra-conference transfer, the Director of Athletics, or designee, at the initial institution must inform the student-athlete in writing of the condition or transfer including application or waiver of MVC and/or NCAA transfer rules and, if the intra-conference transfer is not supported, whether the initial institution wishes to have enforced a 2-year or 1-year residency requirement. A copy of the written notice shall be provided to the Conference Office.

[SB Shock]

didn't someboedy in the other threat say he is transfering to South Dakato?

[Kung Wu]

I suspect that is up for negotiation and is dependend on a case-by-case basis.

The NCAA has no such rule, but each conference can establish their own rules, which may be more restrictive than NCAA transfer rules. Schools can have their own transfer rules, but it's unusual (I assume based on conference affiliations preventing it). Those rules are well defined and written down and are not made on a case-by-case basis, or the school/conference is setting themselves up for a potential lawsuit. The only thing making it case-by-case, that I can think of, is whether the athletic director or non-athletic review process decides to prevent the player from obtaining a release to talk with other schools.

Edit: I just ran across @tropicalshox:'s post showing the MVC's rules. Sweet.

[Kung Wu]

Royal is probably right. Maybe also it would have felt odd for him to be at the celebration with everyone not knowing. This way people can celebrate his accomplishments and say goodbye without finding out the day after he is leaving.

Why are we assuming he won't be at the celebration? Have we heard that's the case? I certainly hope and think he would be there.

[vancedave56]

Just watched the sports on KWCH - Jen says he will be at the celebration, and that the coaching staff is assisting him in finding a new school. He and the staff are on good terms, and I serioiusly doubt if they help him find a new home in the MVC.

[RoyalShock]

Why are we assuming he won't be at the celebration? Have we heard that's the case? I certainly hope and think he would be there.

He will be there.

[I_Vector_Wu]

Best of Luck Jake. We've enjoyed watching you play and appreciate all of the effort you have put forth for this team and Wichita State University.

[wufan]

It's pretty simple. Jake came to the realization that he was not going to be playing a major role on the team next year. Whether coach pointed out to Jake or Jake to coach, they both agreed. With that being the case, Jake decided that he wanted to finish his career with more minutes. There are many fine programs where Jake will be able to play 20 + minutes a game and have post season success!

Good luck to Jake White!!!

[Aargh]

Does anybody else think that Jake and coach have spoken about this prior to Darius Carter signing? I wonder if they just waited until now to announce it? I can see Jake telling coach in advance so he gives him enough time to sign another forward.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

+1,000,000

[Ricardo del Rio]

A very fine person. He is the kind of person that I would want for a next door neighbor or son-in-law.

[wusphlash]

Jake was a contributor to this team. He has a MVC Championship and a Final Four run under his belt. That's something not many players can say. Was he ever going to be all-conference, not likely. He was a role player who has decided more minutes may be waiting for him elsewhere. I can't blame him for that and wish him nothing but the best.

[150946shox]

Does anybody else think that Jake and coach have spoken about this prior to Darius Carter signing? I wonder if they just waited until now to announce it? I can see Jake telling coach in advance so he gives him enough time to sign another forward.

There is no doubt in my mind. Coach said some time ago that he was finished recruiting. Then, just recently it seemed that the recruiting began again. No doubt in my mind that this was a result of Jake telling Coach that he wanted to move on for more playing time. When I heard about the verbal from Carter, I was almost certain.

[SB Shock]

There is no doubt in my mind. Coach said some time ago that he was finished recruiting. Then, just recently it seemed that the recruiting began again. No doubt in my mind that this was a result of Jake telling Coach that he wanted to move on for more playing time. When I heard about the verbal from Carter, I was almost certain.

actually coach has said he never stops recruiting. I suspect that once Carter was signed, then a decision was made that somebody had to go. There still is somebody else who won't be back next year.