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  • #46
    Originally posted by wufan View Post
    Cle is big time and no doubt has NBA size and skill, but he needs to be stronger with his handles in the open court and MUCH more physical under the basket. If he makes those adjustments, he'll be on some All-American lists in 2014. He's also going to be a strong candidate for MVC POY regardless of his offseason improvement.
    He needs serious attention to his foot work. With his size, speed and athleticism, he doesn't drive around slower front court players the way he probably should. Do you remember that run out pass in the second half yesterday which put him 1-on-1 with a big? He tried to juke the player, but crossed his feet and stumbled a bit. Next year he hopefully will drive around that big and finish with a highlight dunk.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Ricardo del Rio View Post
      I agree. He is a stud duck.

      He shoots free throw like E.O. though.

      He is a freshman, I believe.
      His abuse of Jeff Withey has made him a legend around these parts.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by WSUwatcher View Post

        Once that team came apart, MT couldn't put it back together again, and then he got the heck out of Dodge. That's not happening again.

        Having said that, a trip to the Final Four requires a lot of things to go your way, and next year's Shocks could easily be better but have a stumble along the way that brings them up short. But Butler did it two years in a row, the second time without their best player, and they even went one game deeper. So yes, this is absolutely one to savor and remember forever -- but a repeat (or more) is certainly possible, and I for one am not about to doubt that whatever Brad Stevens and his program could do, Marshall and WSU can match.

        On to Arlington!
        I had a guy in the store here in Dallas... while picking up beer for the game say I bet you wish made it next year so you could see them in Arlington.... I was like who says we won't be there next year.
        Last edited by HarpBros; April 7, 2013, 06:41 PM.
        "Valley-shaking, nation-waking 29-game win streak." - Paul Suellentrop, The Wichita Eagle

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        • #49
          Listed to cbs radio and some good discussion about the Shox. Author who wrote this article says he's been shadowing the team since January and knew back then this team was special but no one believed him.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by KC Shox View Post
            I'm projecting here, if FVV, Baker and Cotton represent three of the five starters, our backcourt will be rather small. Do you foresee that being an issue?
            Sub in Wiggins, Wessel and/or Derail Green when size is an issue. All the sudden you are big again.

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            • #51
              At this point, since we're now two over the limit, who knows what our line-up will be. Something tells me that the frontcourt players are going to be affected by this issue.

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              • #52
                Wonder if there is any chance that one or two of our scholarship players would volunteer to walk on next season.
                "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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                Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
                "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

                A physician called into a radio show and said:
                "That's the definition of a stool sample."

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by jrschh View Post
                  No chance, and this isn't meant to be any disrespect to Cle. However, he hasn't been on any projected draft boards (even for the 2nd round). One great game in the Final 4 won't all of a sudden get him on the draft board. However, what it will do is help him me get on the radar for next year.
                  See: O'Bryant, Patrick.
                  The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.

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                  • #54
                    One thing that really excites me about next Season is I think we will be more equipped with sharp-shooters. Can you really have enough solid shooters and scorers on a team? I hope our players work on that aspect as much as any other area.
                    Shocker basketball will forever be my favorite team in all of sports.

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                    • #55
                      Just found this and thought it may be of interest. Sorry if someone had posted it already. You guys have a great coach who gets the most out of his players. Good luck next year.

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                      • #56
                        Ron Baker had fewer stars than there are stop lights in his hometown.

                        He's now probably considered one of the better Fr guards in D1 ball. If Marshall would have signed a 4- or 5-star player, the media would have been all over it. When Marshall signed a guy who is every bit as good as any 4- or 5-star guard around, he got no recognition at all. It seems it would be more difficult to find a guy that the entire nation missed than to find one that absolutely everyone knew about.

                        Next year's So class appears to be the best class at WSU since Carr/Levingston. There may be a few underrated players in that class.
                        The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                        We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Cuttyhunk View Post
                          Just found this and thought it may be of interest. Sorry if someone had posted it already. You guys have a great coach who gets the most out of his players. Good luck next year.

                          http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjkiebus/how...uiting-service
                          Thanks for posting this...it's been fun seeing the world awaken to what so many of have loved for a lifetime.

                          Linked to that article, again, apologies if we've seen this elsewhere....24 reasons to root for the Shockers:

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                            Thanks for posting this...it's been fun seeing the world awaken to what so many of have loved for a lifetime.

                            Linked to that article, again, apologies if we've seen this elsewhere....24 reasons to root for the Shockers:

                            http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjkiebus/24-...r-the-shockers
                            Picture of Tebow, captioned "God is a Shocker fan"
                            People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov

                            Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
                            Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Aargh View Post
                              Ron Baker had fewer stars than there are stop lights in his hometown.

                              He's now probably considered one of the better Fr guards in D1 ball. If Marshall would have signed a 4- or 5-star player, the media would have been all over it. When Marshall signed a guy who is every bit as good as any 4- or 5-star guard around, he got no recognition at all. It seems it would be more difficult to find a guy that the entire nation missed than to find one that absolutely everyone knew about.

                              Next year's So class appears to be the best class at WSU since Carr/Levingston. There may be a few underrated players in that class.
                              A star was born in the NCAA tournament. Baker and Wessell will be the new bookends at WSU - bookend guards, but their impact is going to be huge for us over the next 3 years...
                              Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Cuttyhunk View Post
                                Just found this and thought it may be of interest. Sorry if someone had posted it already. You guys have a great coach who gets the most out of his players. Good luck next year.

                                http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjkiebus/how...uiting-service
                                Awesome.. No better testimony on our coach and his staff... Break out the checkbook...
                                Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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